Subject: Disagreement as to what an exclave is.<br/>
Date: Feb 25, 2002 @ 21:22<br/>
Author: lnadybal (&quot;lnadybal&quot; &lt;lnadybal@...&gt;)<br/>
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<div id="ygrps-yiv-707193636">Andrew wrote:<br/>
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<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; So what we have is a disgreement on what an enclave is and what <br/>
&gt; sovereignty means. An enclave to me is an area like Baarle - one <br/>
&gt; country surrounding completly a piece of an country. The country of <br/>
&gt; the surronded bit has control of the land and can do what every it <br/>
&gt; wants to do on that land. Therefore it has complete sovereignty on <br/>
&gt; that land.<br/>
<br/>
 </span></blockquote>I guess the acid test of whether the transmitter sight is a true <br/>
exclave is to determine whether the Vatican could cede a portion of <br/>
the site to Iran or some other &quot;real&quot; country, as it apparently did <br/>
with the Teutonic Cemetary.  Then we&#39;d see if Italy had any sovereign <br/>
rights (beyond elbowing it&#39;s way to those rights by picking on little <br/>
Vatican as Mussolini did) there.  If Italy has titular sovereignty <br/>
over the transmitter site, then it could legally object to the Vatican <br/>
abandoning a portion of the site to a third country.  <br/>
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I know the US couldn&#39;t cede part of the former Canal Zone to Mexico, <br/>
for example, becuse the treaty with Panama stated the US could only <br/>
act in the Zone &quot;as though it were sovereign&quot;.  I don&#39;t think we can <br/>
equate the transmitter site to being a &quot;zone&quot; that was only loaned <br/>
in perpetuity or handed over to the Vatican for its use while allowing <br/>
it to exercize sovereign rights without it being the sovereign.   I <br/>
don&#39;t think it&#39;s just a piece of property that the Pope bought or <br/>
rents or leases.<br/>
<br/>
Is sovereignty divisible, or can only the exercize of it be divided <br/>
up? <br/>
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Regards<br/>
<br/>
Len Nadybal</div>