Subject: Re: nysw and pane report
Date: Dec 08, 2001 @ 16:14
Author: bjbutlerus ("bjbutlerus" <bjbutler@...>)
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Nice job! I would only add the following comments to your report:

The large monument near PAN (a.k.a. PANE) was set in 1790 by none less
than Andrew Ellicott. This is described in detail in BUS&SS on page
78. A nice photo of the monument appears in BUS&SS on page 7. The
north-south NY/PA boundary follows the meridian that passes through
the western end of Lake Ontario. To accurately survery this line, it
was necessary for the surveying party to enter Canada, find the W end
of Lake Ontario, and the traverse across Ontario to Lake Erie. This
took place at a time between the Revolutionary War and the War of 1812
and there were serious polital obstacles. These are described in
Andrew Ellicott's biograpghy and memoirs, the names of which I cannot
remember at the moment.

By the way, I visited these points in July. My reports are at:

NYSW - http://www.bjbsoftware.com/corners/pointdetail.php3?point=444
PAN - http://www.bjbsoftware.com/corners/pointdetail.php3?point=428

BJB

--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., PitHokie <pithokie@y...> wrote:
> Your junior border adventurer here with a brief report
> in my trip to PAne and NYsw on Thursday. I went up to
> Niagara Falls to play at the casino and on the way
> back decided to look for these two corners.
>
> First I tried to locate land PAne--I didn't have a
> boat and GPS to go out to the middle of Lake Erie but
> thought I'd at least find something on-shore to
> indicate this point. Instead, I walked from the
> border on PA 5/NY 5 toward the lake, straddling a farm
> in PA and a trailer park in NY, where I found a huge
> marker about halfway between the road and the water.
> The marker, which looked like a gravestone, was hard
> to make out but indicated this was "territory ceeded
> to Pennsylvania" from New York--as the northern state
> line used to be completely straight from the Delaware
> River west to the Great Lakes. Oddly enough, the
> other side of the marker said it represented the
> "western end of Lake Ontario" in New York. Did Lake
> Erie used to be called Lake Ontario? If so, what did
> Ontario used to be called?
>
> Unforntunately I couldn't find any more markers
> between this one and the lake. I found a worn, shapen
> stone on the rocky shore with rubar in it indicating
> it may have once been the border marker, but it was
> completely worn and unattached so there was no way to
> tell.
> Does anyone who's ever been here know if any marking
> exists? I took a picture of the basic spot but a
> weird drainage creek which curves right at the line
> made it difficult to pinpoint the spot.
>
> After this visit, I drove a bit into New York to find
> NYsw. I ended up going to the long way around, but
> once in NY I found a "Stateline Rd." and just followed
> this until I found the marker. Although the line
> doesn't exactly straddle the road, it comes pretty
> close. I could tell as soon as I saw a PA sign on the
> NY side of the road that the point was near. Right
> next to the road is a small creek, and just over that
> was the typical small concrete marker with "PA" on one
> side and "NY" on the other, with a cross on top. I
> wonder why this type is used when it doesn't
> accurately reflect one corner, but implies four. The
> "N" of NY on the marker is technically in PA anyway!
>
> Well if anyone is interested, I'll post pictures when
> I get them back Tuesday or Wednesday.
>
> Brendan
> Pittsburgh, PA USA
>
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