--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@y...> wrote:
> Cf. the following:
>
> "(...)as demonstrated by the case of Lake Constance over a
> substantial period, it is possible to agree on the regulation of
> particular uses and achieve pragmatic accommodations, even between
> neutrals and belligerents in time of war, without resolving the
> question of whether there is to be a condominium or partition, and
> therefore without any formal and complete partition of sovereignty."
>
> from an interesting article on the Caspian Sea, which can be read at
> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/usazerb/141.htm
yes peter this is an interesting article both in relation to atchde & also some of our most recent maritime discussions too
but i think the words that preceded your quote are even more telling with regard to atchde than the quote itself & i would like to give them here now
for the writer says
those arguing for condominium bear a substantial burden
but as demonstrated by the case of lake constance etc etc continuing as above
what these extra but essential words say to me is that austria would have a heck of a time convincing a contrarily committed switzerland or even just persuading a reportedly indifferent or indisposed germany to grant a share of a lake area many times greater than an equidistance allocation would give to austria
& that since the condo option is effectively blocked by the stated preference of at least one of the other parties for the default principle of equidistance then there exists in fact a much stronger presumption of that default occurring here than might otherwise be expected
as gideon apparently also saw & indicated by his fairly exactly equidistant placement of the putative tripoint
& as many mapmakers have apparently also sensibly concluded in the absence of anything more definitive
> > Gideon may say whatever he likes of course, but only Switzerland
> > wants the lake to be divided between the three countries according
> to
> > the equidistance principle, I distill from the previous messages.
> > Austria wants it the condominium way, and Germany is not sure and
> has
> > various international agreements about various subjects with
> various
> > viewpoints ('not unambiguous', as it is said). So it looks like the
> > Gideon tripoint is the one according to ch and maybe to de, but
> > certainly not to at.
> >
> > Until we find out about a trilateral treaty on this subject, of
> > course.
since we are pretty sure there is no treaty i would rather say it looks like a clear case of a perfectly stalemated tripoint at present & in the absence of any further express preference from any party it looks unlikely ever to stray very far from where gideon has recorded or envisioned it in the following passage
m
> > > Michael:
> > >
> > > >would someone with access to gideon please confirm whether he
> > > >indicates an atchde tricountry point in lake constance
> > > Of the three borders, he gives most detail under Germany-
> > Switzerland:
> > > "The boundary tripoint with Austria is located in the
> southeastern
> > > section of Lake Constance, 2 miles (3.2km) north of the Swiss
> town
> > of
> > > Altenrhein."
> > >
> > > Grant