Subject: Re: Marcel<br/>
Date: Dec 01, 2001 @ 03:36<br/>
Author: orc@orcoast.com (orc@...)<br/>
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<div id="ygrps-yiv-651412583">glad to learn you are pursuing this further  marcel  & look forward to your=
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 report from the 1660 text  for it seems likely you will find this stone men=
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tioned there with the names & dates of antecedent treaties for ongoing pursu=
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it  but i agree  what better place could there be to dive right in than this=
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 cerdanya treaty  not only because you can but also because nobody has yet b=
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een able to qualify with treaty texts the rival candidate standing on the de=
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nl line<br/>
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<blockquote><span title="qreply"> --- In BoundaryPoint@y..., &lt;marcelmiquel@n...&gt; wrote:<br/>
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&gt; &gt;&gt; so my question here becomes when did this rock begin its service as <br/>
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&gt; &gt;an<br/>
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&gt; &gt;&gt; international boundary rock<br/>
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&gt; &gt;&gt; & that can probably be answered in the treaty texts<br/>
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&gt; &gt;Probably the treaty that divided the Cerdanya. Sixteen-something....<br/>
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&gt; &gt;That&#39;s when Llivia town became detached from the surrounding <br/>
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&gt; &gt;countryside.<br/>
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&gt; &gt;Marcel?<br/>
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&gt; &gt; so in sum first i do think extreme congrats are in order here in <br/>
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&gt; any case<br/>
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&gt; &gt;And from me too.<br/>
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&gt; &gt;Peter S.<br/>
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&gt;  Perhaps the partition treaty of Cerdanya (Treaty of Llívia, <br/>
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&gt; 12/11/1660), mentions the stone. Next monday I will be able to confirm <br/>
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&gt; it, because I don&#39;t have the book near. But the final delimination was <br/>
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&gt; in 1868. Before this delimitation act, the international border was the <br/>
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&gt; ancient municipal border. So, the &quot;pedra dreta&quot; surely was &quot;de facto&quot; a <br/>
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&gt; international boundary marker </span></blockquote></div>