Subject: More about the Spain/France/Andorra east tripoint  (2)<br/>
Date: Sep 18, 2001 @ 17:46<br/>
Author: marcelmiquel@navegalia.com (&lt;marcelmiquel@...&gt;)<br/>
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<div id="ygrps-yiv-1836303862">Hello<br/>
As i have promised in my previous message (3871), I have more <br/>
information about the east Andorra tripoint:<br/>
<br/>
 I own a new official spanish map, “mapa topográfico nacional de <br/>
España”, published by the spanish government, 1:25:000, and the <br/>
tripoint is marked at La Portella, where the border marker 427 is <br/>
placed. Next weekend i will scan and post it.<br/>
<br/>
I’ve consulted a very interesting book: “Atles cartogràfic de les Valls <br/>
d’Andorra 1692-1976”, edited in 1999  by the Andorran goverment. There <br/>
are several articles about andorran cartography and geography, and over <br/>
80 different spanish, french and andorran maps.<br/>
<br/>
 Ather reading the articles, I conclude that there are no boundary <br/>
treaties between Andorra / Spain and Andorra/France. All the border <br/>
lines are “provisional”. A notarial delimitation act between Andorra <br/>
and France is confirmed, but it seems it was only about the Parròquia <br/>
(municipality) of St. Julià de Lòria, so it doesn’t include the <br/>
tripoint. It was made in 1856, and the notaries were Lluís Dalmau de <br/>
Baquer, from Andorra and Tomàs Pal Mitjavila, from Spain. <br/>
<br/>
 The maps are in larger scale ( the most 1:100.000 and over ). The <br/>
1:50.000 ( unofficials ) maps are no so precise to mark the exact <br/>
tripoint. Some maps seems to mark the north one and some the south..<br/>
<br/>
 There’s a map  1:50.000 made by M. Chevalier in 1923 (“raccord entre <br/>
l’Andorre et la frontière espagnole par l’état major espagnol”), where <br/>
the border finish at Portella Blanca ( 2.515 m.), so the north one, but <br/>
another map of M. Chevalier ( 1925 ), marks the south one.<br/>
<br/>
On a popular catalan map for excursionists 1:40.000 ( Ed. Alpina ), the <br/>
tripoint is not cleraly marked. There’s is a note in this map: “the <br/>
border limits are provisional until the agreements would be make”<br/>
 <br/>
 The official andorran 1:10.000 map ( 1976 ) that Eef put in his web <br/>
marks the south tripoint, but there’s a note about all the andorran <br/>
boundaries: “provisional boundary limits”, and “the Spain/Andorra <br/>
boundary line hasn’t been officially sanctioned”<br/>
<br/>
 So we can conclude that the tripoint exist, but Andorra hasn’t <br/>
boundary treaties with Spain and France, so, the exact location is not <br/>
well defined.<br/>
<br/>
 Searching for more information, I have found that a France/Andorra <br/>
boundary treaty was signed on september, 2000: As I’ve explained, there <br/>
is a disputed zone near the tripoint. The Envalira tunnel was in works, <br/>
and a viaduct had to cross this zone. France and Andorra have exchanged <br/>
15.000 m2 and delimited the boundary in this zone. The mayor of Porta ( <br/>
France ) is not satisfied with this treaty.<br/>
In the treaty both countries declare that they want a future agreement <br/>
about his whole common boundary.<br/>
<br/>
See the links ( in catalan ):<br/>
<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.elperiodico.com/EDICION/ED010731/CAS/CARP04/PDF/pag008.pdf">http://www.elperiodico.com/EDICION/ED010731/CAS/CARP04/PDF/pag008.pdf</a><br/>
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<br/>
Marcel<br/>
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