Jesper, Randy and others,
When
did Norway and Iceland become part of the Schengen group? They're not part of
the EU as yet.
I have
a couple of pictures of the Monaco-France border at three different
locations. I'll try to get them made into prints, scanned and sent out to
everyone. Actually this border is easy to spot if you're looking for
it.
Regarding the US-Canada border. It isn't as lax
as most people think it is. While it doesn't have the fences and walls as
in the case of the US-Mexico border, it is heavily 'fortified' otherwise.
Laser sensors all along the border assist border patrol agents in finding
illegal crossers, including bears, moose, and elk--although the latter are
usually not arrested. When the lasers are tripped, ground patrol vehicles
are dispatched to search for crossers, and in more remote locations, helicopters
are sent out. If a person crosses the border away from an official
crossing point and doesn't report at the nearest immigration office, he/she
could be fined thousands of dollars and spend years in prison. Likewise,
laws and regulations create a rather difficult barrier as well, especially for
people whose homes and yards are bisected by the border. While there are
few actual physical barriers on the US-Canada border, there are significant
legal barriers, laser sensors, and patrol vehicles and personnel that make it a
fairly fortified boundary.
Brian
Butler mentioned his recent trip to the International Peace Garden. I've
done quite a lot of research in that area, and it's hard to believe the terrible
headaches that are created on a daily basis for the park superintendents and
personnel managers--they're constantly fighting legal battles,
immigration-related personnel problems, country-specific environmental
conservation issues, insurance claims, binational tax problems, etc. This
is why the Peace Garden is unable to keep a superintendent on staff for more
than a few years at a time--too much legal fighting over and along the US-Canada
border. From the tourist's perspective it is a peace garden, but from the
organization's perspective it is a constant battle--visitors don't see that side
of it.
Anyway, just a few observations on my
part.
Dallen
-----Original Message-----
From:
Jesper & Nicolette Nielsen [mailto:jesniel@...]
Sent:
Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:10 AM
To:
BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] More lax
than US-Canada?
Randy,
Within the Schengen countries (Iceland, Finland, Norway,
Sweden, Denmark, Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, France, Luxembourg, Austria,
Spain, Portugal, Italy, Greece) as a rule there are no guarded borders, and
you can travel freely crossing the border whereever you want.
Most miniature countries like Monaco, the Vatican etc do
also not have guarded borders. In fact it should be quite hard even to spot
the Monacon border! Can anybody produce a picture?
Jesper
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 5:04
PM
Subject: [BoundaryPoint] More lax than
US-Canada?
I was reading the article on the fences on InPk and the
to be built
on InBa. It hit me that at least to USAians, the other end
of the
scale is the US-Canadian border. However that still has guards.
Are
there other borders (perhaps inside the EU?) where the borders are
treated more lightly and less well guarded than USCA?
Randolph
Finder
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