Yeah, I wish Canada would just wise up, maybe even become the 51st
state, and then we could stop all this nonsense.
BJB
--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., Dallen Timothy <dtimothy@a...> wrote:
> Jesper, Randy and others,
> When did Norway and Iceland become part of the Schengen group?
They're not
> part of the EU as yet.
>
> I have a couple of pictures of the Monaco-France border at three
different
> locations. I'll try to get them made into prints, scanned and sent
out to
> everyone. Actually this border is easy to spot if you're looking
for it.
>
> Regarding the US-Canada border. It isn't as lax as most people
think it is.
> While it doesn't have the fences and walls as in the case of the US-
Mexico
> border, it is heavily 'fortified' otherwise. Laser sensors all
along the
> border assist border patrol agents in finding illegal crossers,
including
> bears, moose, and elk--although the latter are usually not
arrested. When
> the lasers are tripped, ground patrol vehicles are dispatched to
search for
> crossers, and in more remote locations, helicopters are sent out.
If a
> person crosses the border away from an official crossing point and
doesn't
> report at the nearest immigration office, he/she could be fined
thousands of
> dollars and spend years in prison. Likewise, laws and regulations
create a
> rather difficult barrier as well, especially for people whose homes
and
> yards are bisected by the border. While there are few actual
physical
> barriers on the US-Canada border, there are significant legal
barriers,
> laser sensors, and patrol vehicles and personnel that make it a
fairly
> fortified boundary.
> Brian Butler mentioned his recent trip to the International Peace
Garden.
> I've done quite a lot of research in that area, and it's hard to
believe the
> terrible headaches that are created on a daily basis for the park
> superintendents and personnel managers--they're constantly fighting
legal
> battles, immigration-related personnel problems, country-specific
> environmental conservation issues, insurance claims, binational tax
> problems, etc. This is why the Peace Garden is unable to keep a
> superintendent on staff for more than a few years at a time--too
much legal
> fighting over and along the US-Canada border. From the tourist's
> perspective it is a peace garden, but from the organization's
perspective it
> is a constant battle--visitors don't see that side of it.
>
> Anyway, just a few observations on my part.
>
> Dallen
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jesper & Nicolette Nielsen [mailto:jesniel@i...]
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:10 AM
> To: BoundaryPoint@y...
> Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] More lax than US-Canada?
>
>
>
> Randy,
>
> Within the Schengen countries (Iceland, Finland, Norway, Sweden,
Denmark,
> Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, France, Luxembourg, Austria, Spain,
Portugal,
> Italy, Greece) as a rule there are no guarded borders, and you can
travel
> freely crossing the border whereever you want.
>
> Most miniature countries like Monaco, the Vatican etc do also not
have
> guarded borders. In fact it should be quite hard even to spot the
Monacon
> border! Can anybody produce a picture?
>
> Jesper
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Randy Finder <mailto:naraht@D...>
> To: BoundaryPoint@y... <mailto:BoundaryPoint@y...>
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 5:04 PM
> Subject: [BoundaryPoint] More lax than US-Canada?
>
> I was reading the article on the fences on InPk and the to be built
> on InBa. It hit me that at least to USAians, the other end of the
> scale is the US-Canadian border. However that still has guards. Are
> there other borders (perhaps inside the EU?) where the borders are
> treated more lightly and less well guarded than USCA?
>
> Randolph Finder
>
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