Subject: SV: SV: SV: [BoundaryPoint] BEFRLU
Date: Oct 01, 2006 @ 08:32
Author: Jesper Nielsen/Borderbase ("Jesper Nielsen/Borderbase" <jesper@...>)
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No other markers were found.
 
But it was an awfull wet day, and we were tired after a week on the road.
 
It's a very accessable place in central Europe so I am surprised nobody else actually explored it also.
 
Jesper


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Sendt: 30. september 2006 19:22
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Emne: Re: SV: SV: [BoundaryPoint] BEFRLU

i agree
it looks like a belu marker to me also
& i too place it in belgian territory
since it is in the crotch between the befr & belu
streams

but what it is actually witnessing is the end of belu
naturally enough
it seems to me
& not the end of befr
which also happens to end there
it is true
but probably has a different terminal marker nearby

so it doesnt strike me as strange at all

in fact i think you reported some other markers in the
neighborhood

--- Jesper Nielsen/Borderbase <jesper@nicolette. dk>
wrote:

>
I think Harry argument was something in line with it
> being the wrong
marker
> on the wrong territory.
>
> If the confluence is the
tp, the marker is in BE, so
> if the marker is a FRLU
> marker is is
strange - it does appears to be a BELU
> marker
> (
href="http://www.nicolette.dk/borderbase/border.php?c1=12">http://www.nicolett e.dk/borderbase/ border.php? c1=12
>
<http://www.nicolett e.dk/borderbase/ border.php? c1=12&c2= 87>
>
&c2=87) . I
> think the FRLU are concrete blocks.
>
>
Jesper
>
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22:40
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Emne: Re: SV: [BoundaryPoint] BEFRLU
>
>
>
>
great
> i will of course stand by for any further
> clarifications
from europe
> but looking on from this side of the pond
> & so
long as we still havent seen any of the 3
> treaties
> your newly
added & in fact best available map
> enlarged
> here
>
href="http://article.">http://article.
>
<http://article. gmane.org/ gmane.culture. discuss.boundary -point/9339>
>
gmane.org/gmane. culture.discuss. boundary- point/9339
> does
show the tripoint precisely at the stream
> confluence
>
>
& no matter if we can or cant yet pinpoint it on a
> satpic
really
>
> nor that we cant yet identify the name of this
tiny
> tributary creek
>
> for i do think we have at last
nailed it on the
> ground
>
> --- Jesper Nielsen/Borderbase
<jesper@nicolette.
> <mailto:jesper% 40nicolette. dk>
dk>
> wrote:
>
> > I agree, satpic too unclear.
> >
> > On GCEBE 2001 we had much discussion of the actual
> > tripoint, as Peter's map
> > showed BEFR parallel with the stream.
Parallel
> with
> > BEFR stream goes a
> > fence, which
could have been the true border. But
> we
> > all know maps are
not
> > made for freaks and some times borders are known
>
to
> > be off the line to show
> > other features.
> >
> > Harry seemed to believe the marker was the actual
> > tripoint. Not sure of the
> > argument. Maybe he can explain
again.
> >
> > Jesper
> >
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> >
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> > Emne: Re: [BoundaryPoint] BEFRLU
> >
> >
> >
> > bravo again
> > this is a new
state of play here if i am not
> > mistaken
> >
href="http://lb.wikipedia">http://lb.wikipedia
> > <
href="http://lb.wikipedia">http://lb.wikipedia
> <
href="http://lb.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:3L">http://lb.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Image:3L>
>
.org/wiki/Image: 3L>
> >
.org/wiki/Image: 3LännereckRodange 01.jpg
> > or at least it is
for me
> >
> > for if i am reading the above pic
correctly
> > then we are looking at a much more pronounced
>
stream
> > confluence than i had previously supposed existed
> > there
> >
> > for it now seems to me that the river
chiers
> > carrying
> > the belu convergent across the
foreground is being
> > met
> > by an unnamed or unknown creek
carrying the befr
> > convergent in from behind the belu terminal
marker
> >
> > & if so then the exact tripoint is
evidently
> > situated
> > in the confluence
> > at
or just beyond the lower left corner of the pic
> > where the frlu
convergent on the chiers below the
> > confluence doent quite reach the
framed area
> >
> > first reports from the scene in the
overgrowth of
> > summertime were somewhat sketchy & left me
without
> > much confidence as to the exact tripoint position
> > in relation to the markers & terrain
> >
> > here
tho in this pic there doesnt seem to be much
> > room
> > for
doubt
> >
> > we just dont yet have a satpic or a map
good
> enough
> > to
> > show it all up
> >
including your latest map also just received
> >
> > or
wouldnt you agree
> >
> > --- Jesper Nielsen/Borderbase
<jesper@nicolette.
> >
<mailto:jesper% 40nicolette. dk> dk>
> >
wrote:
> >
> > > BEFRLU from new angle
> > >
> > > http://lb.wikipedia
> >
> <
href="http://lb.wikipedia">http://lb.wikipedia
>
<http://lb.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Dr%C3%A4il% C3%A4nnereck>
>
.org/wiki/Dr% C3%A4il%C3% A4nnereck>
> >
.org/wiki/Dr% C3%A4il%C3% A4nnereck
> > >
> > >
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> > >
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> > >
> > >
> >
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