Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: breakaway montenegro tripoints are looking like the winners
Date: Jun 05, 2006 @ 03:00
Author: Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <lgm@...>)
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----- Original Message -----
From: "aletheia kallos" <aletheiak@...>
To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: breakaway montenegro tripoints are
looking like the winners
> thanx
> all good points
> which further inform & hedge my handicapping
> assessment that practically anything could still
> happen on the way to turtle bay
>
> & of course it is the new tripoints & their promotion
> to the world class
> that we are most interested in here
> rather than simply the birth or rebirth of these 2 new
> countries & their newly international border
>
> & yes of course
> what i have been calling the new breakaway montenegro
> tripoints for want of a better name are in fact just
> as much the new breakaway serbia tripoints
> even tho it is technically & sentimentally montenegro
> who has divorced serbia rather than vice versa
>
> more accurate would be just to think of them as
> t h e
> 2 new tricountry points
>
> part of the difficulty here btw is that we dont yet
> have & cant even yet imagine the iso digraphs for
> these 2 new countries
> let alone the resulting tripoint hexaglyphs
> so the terminology is still very crude compared to our
> usual coding
>
>
> & to try to answer your question
>
> when the czechoslovakian seat for example split into
> the separate czech & slovak seats
> which is the best & most exact analogy & precedent i
> can think of
> each was admitted into the general assembly as a new
> entity on the same day
> perhaps even simultaneously in photo finish mode for
> all i know
> & their old seat was simply abandoned
> much like their old iso digraph
> which neither of them actually inherited either
>
> but not every rump seat & iso digraph have been
> reinvented at turtle bay when breakaway seats &
> digraphs have been created
>
> & i think we have only been using united nations
> membership as the defining characteristic of the world
> class because that is the global consensus view of it
> while allowing for or perhaps rather ignoring the
> inconvenient exceptions of taiwan & vatican city
>
> if there were a better way to acknowledge the
> tripointing hierarchy
> & to rightly recognize the world class or top level of
> it
> i think we should find & use it
>
> --- "Lowell G. McManus" <lgm@...> wrote:
>
>> Putin can decry "separatist territorial pretenses"
>> all he wishes (as
>> well he probably should from his point of view), but
>> the independence of
>> Montenegro is hardly a pretense. Under the 2003
>> Constitutional Charter
>> of Serbia and Montenegro, either of the two
>> republics was entitled to
>> hold a referendum on separation after three years.
>> What Montenegro is
>> doing is strictly by-the-book.
>>
>> As for the race to Turtle Bay: As the Montenegrins
>> divorce the
>> Serbians, each party becomes as single as the other.
>> Will Serbia be
>> allowed to inherit the existing S&M seat while
>> Montenegro has to apply
>> anew, or will both Serbia and Montenegro need to be
>> admitted anew?
>> Please remember that it took the UN from 1992 to
>> 2000 to admit the rump
>> Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (renamed Serbia and
>> Montenegro in 2003)
>> in lieu of the former Socialist Federative Republic
>> of Yugoslavia after
>> Slovenia, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Croatia, and Macedonia
>> had departed.
>>
>> Lowell G. McManus
>> Leesville, Louisiana, USA
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "aletheiak" <aletheiak@...>
>> To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 9:42 AM
>> Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: breakaway montenegro
>> tripoints are looking
>> like the winners
>>
>>
>> > but the race to turtle bay cant actually be won
>> until the general
>> > assembly reconvenes in
>> > the fall
>> >
>> > & tho no other contenders have emerged from the
>> pack or seem at all
>> > likely to do so at
>> > this point
>> > yet there are complications ahead
>> >
>> > for example
>> >
>>
> http://www.focus-fen.net/index.php?catid=137&newsid=89607&ch=0
>> >
>> >
>> > still i would give even money now
>> > on either the montenegro prospects or all the
>> others combined
>> > to win
>> >
>> > as opposed to placing or showing
>> >
>> > or finishing at all
>> >
>> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, aletheia
>> kallos <aletheiak@...>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> margin of victory if any is razor thin tho
>> >> in race to turtle bay
>> >> & official result of photo finish wont be known
>> til
>> >> morning
>> >>
>>
> http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2006-05
>> >
>>
> -21T220948Z_01_L21282045_RTRUKOC_0_US-SERBIAMONTENEGRO-VOTE.xml
>> >>
>> >> scant details of new world class tripoints are
>> here
>> >> toward the bottom
>> >>
>>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/19471
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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