Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: breakaway montenegro tripoints are looking like the winners
Date: Jun 04, 2006 @ 23:37
Author: aletheia kallos (aletheia kallos <aletheiak@...>)
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thanx
all good points
which further inform & hedge my handicapping
assessment that practically anything could still
happen on the way to turtle bay

& of course it is the new tripoints & their promotion
to the world class
that we are most interested in here
rather than simply the birth or rebirth of these 2 new
countries & their newly international border

& yes of course
what i have been calling the new breakaway montenegro
tripoints for want of a better name are in fact just
as much the new breakaway serbia tripoints
even tho it is technically & sentimentally montenegro
who has divorced serbia rather than vice versa

more accurate would be just to think of them as
t h e
2 new tricountry points

part of the difficulty here btw is that we dont yet
have & cant even yet imagine the iso digraphs for
these 2 new countries
let alone the resulting tripoint hexaglyphs
so the terminology is still very crude compared to our
usual coding


& to try to answer your question

when the czechoslovakian seat for example split into
the separate czech & slovak seats
which is the best & most exact analogy & precedent i
can think of
each was admitted into the general assembly as a new
entity on the same day
perhaps even simultaneously in photo finish mode for
all i know
& their old seat was simply abandoned
much like their old iso digraph
which neither of them actually inherited either

but not every rump seat & iso digraph have been
reinvented at turtle bay when breakaway seats &
digraphs have been created

& i think we have only been using united nations
membership as the defining characteristic of the world
class because that is the global consensus view of it
while allowing for or perhaps rather ignoring the
inconvenient exceptions of taiwan & vatican city

if there were a better way to acknowledge the
tripointing hierarchy
& to rightly recognize the world class or top level of
it
i think we should find & use it

--- "Lowell G. McManus" <lgm@...> wrote:

> Putin can decry "separatist territorial pretenses"
> all he wishes (as
> well he probably should from his point of view), but
> the independence of
> Montenegro is hardly a pretense. Under the 2003
> Constitutional Charter
> of Serbia and Montenegro, either of the two
> republics was entitled to
> hold a referendum on separation after three years.
> What Montenegro is
> doing is strictly by-the-book.
>
> As for the race to Turtle Bay: As the Montenegrins
> divorce the
> Serbians, each party becomes as single as the other.
> Will Serbia be
> allowed to inherit the existing S&M seat while
> Montenegro has to apply
> anew, or will both Serbia and Montenegro need to be
> admitted anew?
> Please remember that it took the UN from 1992 to
> 2000 to admit the rump
> Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (renamed Serbia and
> Montenegro in 2003)
> in lieu of the former Socialist Federative Republic
> of Yugoslavia after
> Slovenia, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Croatia, and Macedonia
> had departed.
>
> Lowell G. McManus
> Leesville, Louisiana, USA
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "aletheiak" <aletheiak@...>
> To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 9:42 AM
> Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: breakaway montenegro
> tripoints are looking
> like the winners
>
>
> > but the race to turtle bay cant actually be won
> until the general
> > assembly reconvenes in
> > the fall
> >
> > & tho no other contenders have emerged from the
> pack or seem at all
> > likely to do so at
> > this point
> > yet there are complications ahead
> >
> > for example
> >
>
http://www.focus-fen.net/index.php?catid=137&newsid=89607&ch=0
> >
> >
> > still i would give even money now
> > on either the montenegro prospects or all the
> others combined
> > to win
> >
> > as opposed to placing or showing
> >
> > or finishing at all
> >
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, aletheia
> kallos <aletheiak@...>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> margin of victory if any is razor thin tho
> >> in race to turtle bay
> >> & official result of photo finish wont be known
> til
> >> morning
> >>
>
http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2006-05
> >
>
-21T220948Z_01_L21282045_RTRUKOC_0_US-SERBIAMONTENEGRO-VOTE.xml
> >>
> >> scant details of new world class tripoints are
> here
> >> toward the bottom
> >>
>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/19471
>
>
>


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