thanx
neat
that pretty much answers everything
& i am fairly well satisfied now too that the marker
you found atop the boulder either dates from or is a
later recapping of the point of beginning of the
original walker & henderson line of 1779
which is the vanc westward extension survey that was
made even before ky & tn existed
the fact that this marker is maybe 50 yards west of
the true ridge line is probably owing to the
prominence of its boulder within the general
neighborhood even if it does stand noticeably beside
the exact ridge backbone
& it makes sense that the subsequent national park
boundary would incorporate the marker rather than only
the unmarked kyse point
to form what appears to be a sort of kytnus or kytn
nps tripoint
as is shown a bit more readably here than on the usgs
topo
http://data2.itc.nps.gov/parks/cuga/ppMaps/CUGAmap1%2Epdf
about the peculiar zigging & zagging tendency of vanc
& kytn off their nominal 36d30m latitude position
especially in this area
bus&ss indicates as follows
there are many angles & offsets in the kytn & vanc
line east of the tennessee river that can scarcely be
attributed to errors in surveying
it seems however that the commissioners who first ran
the lines were allowed to change them at their mutual
discretion
& consequently they ran them on an irregular course to
accommodate influential inhabitants along the boundary
who desired to remain in one state or the other
or in other words your lovely ridge walk from kytnva
to kyse was probably the result of schmoozing & or
payola
a practically identical offset occurs between nctnva &
tnne
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spookymike@... wrote:
> So, the identity of state "YV" is a mystery?
> That's stone-fingers for "TN,"
> as surmised.
>
> I have no clue what the other line that runs into KY
> Corner marker from the
> NW actually bounds.
> We stupidly did not have a copy of the USGS data
> sheet for the KY Corner
> marker, which would have told us to look atop the
> boulder for the primary marker,
> plus in several other places for reference/azimuth
> markers and other
> interesting marks, such as an inscription on the
> boulder, all of which we missed,
> excepting the corner marker. I really need to
> revisit, and see how many other
> markers are still in place. It's a great hike,
> passing KYTNVA en route, then
> following the ridge, with views all the way, until
> the corner. The marker
> itself had so much patina, crud, or whatever on it
> that my buddy had to gently
> scrape off all the gunk with a small penknife to
> allow us to read the
> inscriptions. It must be visited very rarely.
>
> The link for the USGS data sheet:
> http://www.ngs.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/ds_radius.prl
> When the site loads, enter coordinates N363457 and
> W0834128. Then select
> the Kentucky Corner Reset. The data sheet
> describes three reference markers
> and an inscription on the side of the large boulder,
> none of which we found, but
> might have, had we known to look.
>
> The marker is definitely west of the true corner, at
> least as shown on the
> map, which is apparently an unmarked spot on the
> ridge crest, a short stroll
> east from the boulder.
>
> Mike S.
>
>
> In a message dated 4/4/06 4:38:22 PM,
> BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com writes:
>
>
> > > > Message: 10
> > > > > Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 12:11:56 -0700
> (PDT)
> > > > > From: aletheia kallos <aletheiak@...>
> > > > > Subject: but yikes is this a ga3bagwhaja
> > > > quadricounty island
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/gwinnett/stories/0403GWXmulberry.html
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > http://topozone.com/map.asp?
> > z=17&n=3779871&e=240142&s=25&size=l&datum=nad83&
> > > > > layer=DRG25
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mike: I have a good buddy who lives in
> Smyrna, GA.
> > > > He's primarily a
> > > > highpointer, but also has got the BP bug. He
> and I
> > > > visited Kentucky Corner SW of
> > > > KYYVVA along the ridge trail, and found the
> elusive
> > > > marker atop a ten foot
> > > > high boulder. I'll sicc him on the 4point
> and try
> > > > to get some on site info for
> > > > the group.
> > > >
> > > > Mike S.
> > >
> > > great
> > >
> > > i am both awed & puzzled by this kentucky corner
> &
> > > kyyvva tho
> > >
> > > can you elucidate them further
> >
> > aha i seem to have partly figured it out in my
> dreams
> >
> > you must mean kytnva
> > & the east end of the kentucky south line
> >
> > curiously the usgs topo shows a marked tripoint
> just a hair west of there
> > but i cant figure out what it is the tripoint of
> > if not just the cumberland gap national park &
> kytn state line
> >
> > asking topozone for tiprell & panning west gets
> you there
> > & it is marked kentucky corner all right
> > yet the actual kentucky corner doesnt appear to be
> where the kentucky corner
> > marker is
> >
> > can you clear this up any
> >
> >
>
>
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