thanx & glad you dig it too

but tho your maps arent working for me
i dont find the mention of garbutts falls you saw
there so surprising

this map shows garbutts falls
http://www.law.fsu.edu/library/collection/LimitsinSeas/maps/bs8.html
upon the meridian of which true bzgtmx & true bznw are
definitively based
& upon which true cmqr & true cmqryu are thus probably
based too
albeit among other probabilities in their cases

we also know vertice aguas turbias aka gtmx hito 107
is about 200 meters west of this meridian & the new
bzgtmx rock

so i trust your maps reflect that too & would be
surprised if they didnt

--- "Lowell G. McManus" <lgm@...> wrote:

> Thanks for this juicy morsel of news on one of the
> most complex and baffling
> boundary situations in North America! I have
> reviewed your and my old posts on
> this issue, and I've dug out some new material.
>
> First, I want to point you to the maps of Campeche
> and Quintana Roo from the
> Mexican federal government's new 2006 ATLAS POR
> ENTIDAD FEDERATIVA, which can be
> downloaded (along with all other states and the
> Distrito Federal) as huge PDF's
> at http://dgp.sct.gob.mx/index.php?id=440 . This is
> the best and most
> up-to-date series of Mexican maps of which I know
> anywhere on the web.
>
> The maps of Campeche (
> http://dgp.sct.gob.mx/fileadmin/Atlas/campeche.pdf )
> and
> Quintana Roo (
> http://dgp.sct.gob.mx/fileadmin/Atlas/qroo.pdf )
> from this series
> are in agreement, in that they show the disputed
> area between them crosshatched
> in red. The explanation on the Campeche map says,
> "Los límites estatales de
> Quintana Roo y Campeche están por definirlos la
> Suprema Corte de Justícia [sic]
> de la Nación." The Quintana Roo map explains, "Los
> límites estatales de
> Quintana Roo y Campeche están por definirlos la
> Suprema Corte de Justicia Que se
> encuentran en Litigio." Both maps show the
> competing vertex locations as "Put"
> and "Nuevo Put." The Yucatán map shows that state's
> southern vertex at Put and
> the zone crosshatched elsewhere as in Campeche
> (giving us what would be a
> martini glass with bent stem if the map went far
> enough south).
>
> Some among us will be interested to know that the
> Campeche map shows a monument
> at or near BZGTMX labeled "MONUMENTO 107 (VERTICE
> AGUAS TURBIAS)," where the
> traditional survey of GTMX terminates. The most
> astounding thing is that the
> map of Quintana Roo labels the eastern line of the
> crosshatched zone (and thus
> the boundary as claimed by Campeche) as "MERIDANO DE
> GARBUTT" as if its location
> were derivative from Garbutt's Falls on the Belize
> River on BZGT rather than the
> disputed location of the ruins of Rancho Put. I kid
> you not! I don't know what
> to read into that.
>
> Lowell G. McManus
> Leesville, Louisiana, USA
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "aletheia kallos" <aletheiak@...>
> To: <boundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 8:55 AM
> Subject: [BoundaryPoint] mx2cmqryu dispute flares
> again but crazier than ever
>
>
> > fresh news report
> >
>

http://www2.eluniversal.com.mx/pls/impreso/web_columnas_sup.detalle?var=29246

> >
> > dispute was previously discussed tho the tripoint
> was
> > misnamed here
> >
>

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/11364

> > which included this link
> > http://www.larevista.com.mx/ed638/opi10.htm
> > wherein the intimately related bzgtmx tripoint was
> > also misidentified
> > & of which the following is a comical
> mistranslation
> >
>

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.larevista.com.mx%2Fed638%2Fopi10.htm&langpair=es%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools

> >
> > earlier yet probably better info
> >
>

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/11359

> >
>

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/11357

> >
>

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/11354

> >
>

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/11351

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