Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] mx2cmqryu dispute flares again but crazier than ever
Date: Mar 06, 2006 @ 18:57
Author: Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <lgm@...>)
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Thanks for this juicy morsel of news on one of the most complex and baffling 
boundary situations in North America!  I have reviewed your and my old posts on 
this issue, and I've dug out some new material.
First, I want to point you to the maps of Campeche and Quintana Roo from the 
Mexican federal government's new 2006 ATLAS POR ENTIDAD FEDERATIVA, which can be 
downloaded (along with all other states and the Distrito Federal) as huge PDF's 
at 
http://dgp.sct.gob.mx/index.php?id=440 .  This is the best and most 
up-to-date series of Mexican maps of which I know anywhere on the web.
The maps of Campeche ( 
http://dgp.sct.gob.mx/fileadmin/Atlas/campeche.pdf ) and 
Quintana Roo ( 
http://dgp.sct.gob.mx/fileadmin/Atlas/qroo.pdf ) from this series 
are in agreement, in that they show the disputed area between them crosshatched 
in red.  The explanation on the Campeche map says, "Los límites estatales de 
Quintana Roo y Campeche están por definirlos la Suprema Corte de Justícia [sic] 
de la Nación."  The Quintana Roo map explains, "Los límites estatales de 
Quintana Roo y Campeche están por definirlos la Suprema Corte de Justicia Que se 
encuentran en Litigio."  Both maps show the competing vertex locations as "Put" 
and "Nuevo Put."  The Yucatán map shows that state's southern vertex at Put and 
the zone crosshatched elsewhere as in Campeche (giving us what would be a 
martini glass with bent stem if the map went far enough south).
Some among us will be interested to know that the Campeche map shows a monument 
at or near BZGTMX labeled "MONUMENTO 107 (VERTICE AGUAS TURBIAS)," where the 
traditional survey of GTMX terminates.  The most astounding thing is that the 
map of Quintana Roo labels the eastern line of the crosshatched zone (and thus 
the boundary as claimed by Campeche) as "MERIDANO DE GARBUTT" as if its location 
were derivative from Garbutt's Falls on the Belize River on BZGT rather than the 
disputed location of the ruins of Rancho Put.  I kid you not!  I don't know what 
to read into that.
Lowell G. McManus
Leesville, Louisiana, USA
 ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "aletheia kallos" <aletheiak@...>
To: <boundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 8:55 AM
Subject: [BoundaryPoint] mx2cmqryu dispute flares again but crazier than ever
> fresh news report
> http://www2.eluniversal.com.mx/pls/impreso/web_columnas_sup.detalle?var=29246
>
> dispute was previously discussed tho the tripoint was
> misnamed here
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/11364
> which included this link
> http://www.larevista.com.mx/ed638/opi10.htm
> wherein the intimately related bzgtmx tripoint was
> also misidentified
> & of which the following is a comical mistranslation
> http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.larevista.com.mx%2Fed638%2Fopi10.htm&langpair=es%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools
>
> earlier yet probably better info
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/11359
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/11357
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/11354
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/11351
>
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