hmm & when exactly too
http://www.pinr.com/report.php?ac=view_report&report_id=425&language_id=1
for
since this one is looking like another indefinite
stall
the attached recent crystall ball try is all the more
preposterous
so dont bet on her even if geographically located
& you are probably already aware that the kosovo
tripoint prospect was also slowed
tho not necessarily quite so stalled out
by the passing of the father of that likely new
country
& todays supposed eggzil 3way border cross opening was
another bust
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=97161
so thats no hot prospect there
if it ever was
with no one & nothing to recommend it anywhere in
sight now
& the bolivian hopefuls seem to have quietly survived
the indianization of that country
etc
etc
so today it is looking like one ambazania is about as
good as any other
but i suppose kosovo must remain the slight favorite
at the moment
both for next seat at the united nations
& for a very plausible tripoint location too
or does anyone have a likelier idea
--- In
BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, aletheia kallos
<aletheiak@y...> wrote:
>
> with the help of this better map
>
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/africa/djibouti_1968.jpg
> i have now managed to whittle the guess down to
about
> n8d22m x e46d04m
> & thus now more like a single square mile window
> situated more like 25km wnw on etso from buuhoodle
> which is written bohotleh here
>
> & now only time can tell the rest of the story
>
> --- aletheia kallos <aletheiak@y...> wrote:
>
> > tho the territorial outcome is still unclear
> > nevertheless complete prisoner exchanges between
> > somaliland & puntland in the past week
> > http://allafrica.com/stories/200512070086.html
> >
http://allpuntland.com/eng/news_item.asp?NewsID=1934
> > likely mark the end of their recent border war
over
> > the sool & sanaag regions
> > & the buuhoodle district of togdheer just to the
> > west
> > of sool
> >
>
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/africa/somalia_pol02.jpg
> > which together comprise the eastern & slightly
> > bigger
> > half of historic aka british somaliland
> >
> > this development could greatly simplify the path
to
> > full somaliland independence from somalia
> > within definite borders
> > & possibly also tho less likely full puntland
> > independence too
> > from what would then become a progressively rumpy
> > somalia
> > as shown here approximately & not at all
necessarily
> > in its likeliest 3 cuts
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puntland
> >
> > & there is no mention of a territorial treaty in
the
> > news perhaps simply because neither of the parties
> > is
> > considered a sovereign enough country to treat to
> > one
> > oops
> >
> > or of one
> > or however that is supposed to be said
> >
> >
> > the above cia map as well as the more detailed
> >
>
http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/features/MapCenter/Map.aspx?TextLatitude=8.929399217895616&TextLongitude=47.1670222003982&TextAltitude=8&TextSelectedEntity=216&SearchEnc=false&MapStyle=Comprehensive&MapSize=Large&MapStyleSelectedIndex=0&searchTextMap=laascaanood+somalia&MapStylesList=Comprehensive&ZoomOnMapClickCheck=on&ResultsListbox=9.45996909481857%3B47.1670222003982%3B2%3B216%3BSomalia%2C+Africa%3BLarge%3BComprehensive
> > indicate the mentioned sool capital las anod as
> > laascaanood
> >
> > so the mentioned party town of ariade or ari adey
> > could be adhicadeeye just to its nw on the encarta
> > map
> > seeing as they do spell so funny around there
> >
> >
> > but the real question for crystal ball gazing
> > multipointers becomes
> > whether somaliland will remain whole when she
> > secedes
> > or whether some territory of any of these 3
> > contested
> > ethnically puntish regions will fall to punt
> >
> > if somaliland manages to establish independence
> > within
> > her full formerly british territory
> > then her new world class tripoint will fall at the
> > point also generally recognized as the easternmost
> > of
> > ethiopia
> > aka ete
> > & indeed thats where there used to be an etgbit
> > world
> > class tripoint
> > between 1908 & 1940 i think it was
> > both de jure & de facto for at least that long
> > & where there was still a world class tripoint
> > just as lovely but by some other name til as
> > recently
> > as 1960
> >
> >
> > it is of course still a huge if tho
> > not only because puntland won the war
> > but also because it wouldnt be the first
territorial
> > nibble by punt from the original somaliland
> > as you can see in the cia map by the 10x80km bulge
> > of
> > nugaal into sool just west of garoowe
> > which is evidently a postcolonial creation
> > as these maps suggest
> >
>
http://www.civicwebs.com/cwvlib/africa/somalia/1951/general_survey/chapter_9.htm#468.
> >
> > & which are also good btw to see the ethnic
> > distributions
> >
> >
> > & the whole world
> > but particularly the african union for some
strange
> > reason
> > whose opinion evidently really matters to the
> > destiny
> > of this prospective somaliland tripoint
> > i can tell you
> > has extreme fetishes about maintaining all the
> > ridiculous old colonial boundary lines in place
> > as well as about keeping all presently whole
> > countries
> > entire as much as possible
> >
> > & that odd fact alone has been the biggest
stumbling
> > block to the birth of this tripoint so far
> >
> > as it probably will continue to be
> >
> >
> > but i have a hunch or maybe only a hope that the
> > reason for this sudden outbreak of peace
> > above & beyond the fact that somaliland is an
> > intrinsically agreeable & peace loving place
> > is that
> > now that she has shown herself to be a model
> > democracy
> > & so fully deserving of independence
> > some quiet but larger deal has been struck
> > & some clear arrangement been made
> > & probably not just locally & bilaterally but pan
> > somalian or more likely pan african in scope
> > or maybe it even happened in dc or turtle bay
> > that will provide for somaliland to make good her
> > escape from somalia
> > if not entire
> > then with her primary ethnic constituency whole
> > & i should think much relieved by being relieved
of
> > so
> > much of herself & the possibility of future
internal
> > ethnic strife
> > by such a clean & timely cut
> >
> > & tho i wish i could see rather than only imagine
> > what
> > they are talking about in section 95 regarding the
> > missing illustration 11 here
> >
>
http://www.civicwebs.com/cwvlib/africa/somalia/1951/general_survey/chapter_4.htm#F.
> > it is my best but still not very educated guess
that
> > the flake off line & military front & timely cut
> > would
> > run along this mentioned somewhat crooked old
> > british
> > cut line too
> > pretty much right down the middle of the colony
> > most of which still survives to divide sanaag &
sool
> > from western somaliland
> > & which evidently once reached & would again reach
> > ethiopia
> > to produce a brand new world class tripoint
> > at about nlat8d20m x elong46d10m
> > as you can also see or imagine on the nicely
gridded
> > encarta map about 20km wnw of the etso border town
> > of
> > buuhoodle
> >
> > for that is my crude but best guess & frankly hope
> > for
> > the new breakaway somaliland tripoint at the
moment
> >
> > & it is crude not only because my estimated window
> > in
> > tens of minutes is pretentiously narrow
> > & needs to be refined based on a better map
> > but also because i dont really know but only
surmise
> > &
> > wishfully think
> > for the sake of elegant simplicity too
> > that the buuhoodle district of the eastern
togdheer
> > region is the part of this region lying only south
> > of
> > the sool region
> > & thus was formerly within western british
> > somaliland
> > too
> >
> > so all just nice guess
> >
> > but there you have my new best guess in any case
> > almost together with the morning news rushes
> > except it is already just afternoon here on ice
> > cream
> > hill
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