Glad to hear "my session" on this Earth has not fully "expired". So I dare a
second time: Got it. The next issue pops up: Mappy.co.uk has got the roads
different from my maps. Also the distances from Plesten to our tripoint are
different. Irrelevant? You may also try
http://www.viamichelin.com/viamichelin/deu/dyn/controller/mapPerformPage?str
Location=Mitwitz&strCountry=eur&google=1
Seems to conform with mappy.co.uk, which does not mean much.
But: Much more interesting: Wanted to see more about Plesten, saw it is
close to Mitwitz, the next bigger community, and found
www.swingerclub-mitwitz.de/ . So maybe worth a trip, really, against my
previous grumbling.
www.mitwitz.de tells me that the last person was executed in Mitwitz in 1612
and that a certain Dr. Westermayer drove the first automobile in Mitwitz in
1900.
But I am completely wrong: Plesten belongs to www.neustadt-bei-coburg.de . A
completely dull site. So I better stay home, as previously decided.
Wolfgang
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von:
BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:
BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von aletheia kallos
Gesendet: Dienstag, 22. November 2005 16:15
An:
BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
Betreff: Re: AW: AW: [BoundaryPoint] 1806 bavaria coburg meinengen
tripoint now looking like de2byth near plesten
haha i almost knew it wouldnt work hahaha
so ok
just go here if you would
http://www.mappy.co.uk
& at top center type plesten for place & select
germany for country
& then look to the right & click the ok button
& in the first screen that comes up
you should already see the gargoyle lappet with the
tripoint in her mouth
about 1300 meters to the ene of downtown plesten
& in fact facing & seeming to spout directly at
plesten
& this tripoint you can then click on
& or hit the plus button at left
to zoom further in on
but anyway
assuming we have the next order & names of all the
subdivisions right
then based on them we can tentatively offer the name
cokrso for this tripoint
or de2byth3cokrso in full
just to see if she responds at all
or if anyone has a better idea of her true name & or
true location
but my guess is
we already have her right there now
--- Wolfgang Schaub
<
Wolfgang.Schaub@...> wrote:
> The Landkreise? Seems an easy one: CO = Coburg, KC =
> Kronach, SON =
> Sonneberg.
> This all without going at
>
http://www26.mappy.com/sidmMqNWkFZ/1fMn21w/CFGMA?csl=m1&fsl=m1&gsl=m1&msl=m1
>
&ids=&xsl=1&posl=poi&recherche=0&show_poi=0&poi_rr=0.5&poi_rx=0.6&poi_ry=0.5
>
&lr=0.5&flash=1&gb=&out=2&wnm1=&wcm1=&nom1=&tnm1=plesten&pcm1=&tcm1=&a10m1=&
> ccm1=276&brand=&x=18&y=7
>
> Once I try to access this site, my computer speaks
> French to me: "Votre
> session a expiré. Veuillez rafraichir la page."
> Napoleon still ruling
> Bavaria?
>
> How far did you go NE of Plesten? My map says it's
> 600 m only from downtown
> Plesten to the point of ultimate desire. Or did you
> think of going 4.5 - 5.5
> km ENE? The latter is out of question, as it is out
> of Sachsen-Coburg, I
> think.
>
> Wolfgang
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von
> aletheia kallos
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 22. November 2005 14:50
> An: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: Re: AW: [BoundaryPoint] 1806 bavaria coburg
> meinengen tripoint
> now looking like de2byth near plesten
>
>
> bravissimos maestro
>
> & i am reading you blitzen und donner these days
>
> & if i may continue to follow your or really jespers
> lead up this fantastic tripoint ascent
> then the following hopeful map from mappy even
> suggests a target tripoint
> almost squarely on the nipple
> or maybe it is the kisser
> of your lappet
> which is looking like a gargoyle of the first water
> there btw
>
http://www26.mappy.com/sidmMqNWkFZ/1fMn21w/CFGMA?csl=m1&fsl=m1&gsl=m1&msl=m1
>
&ids=&xsl=1&posl=poi&recherche=0&show_poi=0&poi_rr=0.5&poi_rx=0.6&poi_ry=0.5
>
&lr=0.5&flash=1&gb=&out=2&wnm1=&wcm1=&nom1=&tnm1=plesten&pcm1=&tcm1=&a10m1=&
> ccm1=276&brand=&x=18&y=7
> or if this map is another bust too hahahaha then
> please just zoom yourself to the jurisdictional
> tripoint indicated evidently upon byth a hair north
> of
> due east of plesten
> where you will even find the convergent
> subdivisional
> line coming in from the correct direction
> seeing as coburg & old bavaria are both bavaria
>
> a wild guess but an exciting one
> dont you think
>
> & i just wanted to beam it out there even before
> learning the true names & diglyphs of the attendant
> landkreise
> if thats what they are
> to finally solve for de2byth3xxyyzz
>
> so anyone bavarian barbarbian philistine or yahoo
> enough
> please help out if you can & would to pin these
> mothers down before i do
> & together learn perhaps the true name of our lost
> gargoyle of pleisten tripoint
> if thats who she really is
>
> & just allow me a few insertions below too before i
> post these morning rushes posthaste
>
> --- Wolfgang Schaub
> <Wolfgang.Schaub@...> wrote:
>
> > Thank you for the stimulation. Like always, we
> just
> > need a kick in the ass.
>
> haha not me of course
> & you are most welcome
> the stimulation is mutual
>
> > Before even consulting the additional maps
> > suggested, I agree giving more
> > credit to the "Plesten" tripoint alternative, for
> > the following reasons:
> >
> > Looking at the picture
> >
>
http://www.ena.lu/europe/success%20crisis/iron%20curtain%20border%20point%20
> > three%20territories%201965.htm we have to imagine
> an
> > arrangement of these
> > markers such that their engravings face the
> > countries that they stand for.
> > This is only possible in a sensible way at the
> > Plesten (Eastern) tripoint,
> > and it is impossible at the Western tripoint
> between
> > Weitramsdorf and
> > Ummerstadt.
>
> good nice
>
> > If we assume the picture is taken towards East,
> the
> > central stone with the
> > GO then faces SW, right towards the Coburg
> portion
> > of Sachse-Coburg. The
> > left stone with the presumed AL on it is placed in
> a
> > 90-degree angle facing
> > NE, looking into the narrow "lobe/lappet/flap" of
> > Sachse-Meiningen, and the
> > small stone to the right may look anywhere it
> likes
> > as long as it is true
> > that it is "only" a marker of the next-best
> village.
>
> could be barbaria oops i mean bavaria
>
> > Such a setting would
> > not be possible at the Western tripoint, even if
> we
> > twist our heads.
>
> nice
>
> > The hypothesis is "supported" by the fact that
> there
> > is a country road going
> > from Plesten toward NE that touches the
> > Bavaria/Thuringia border precisely
> > at the place where the pic may have been taken.
>
> yes & we have a road near my above guess too
> tho i am not sure if you mean this road
>
> > Imagining somebody taking
> > border pictures in the Cold War this would only
> have
> > been "safe" if you took
> > them either from a public road or out of the
> window
> > of your car. Approaching
> > the border on foot from the West, across open
> > fields, was thrilling if not
> > dangerous - again, the "easiest" pic-taking
> position
> > for a journalist was NE
> > of Plesten. The Western tripoint is not accessible
> > by car.
>
> good
> further corroboration we have the right tripoint
>
> > Additional support for the hypothesis is provided
> by
> > the fact that you see
> > the border running through the background of the
> > picture (the white poles),
> > nicely in conformance with my 1: 300,000 road map.
> > Well, I also have maps 1
> > : 200,000, and quickly making looky-looky on those
> > does not produce anything
> > in addition, nor to the contrary.
> >
> > Unfortunately, these bloody markers and poles do
> not
> > throw shadows
> > supporting the hypothesis.
> >
> > Remains the mystery what the stone left in the
> > picture wants to tell us. I
> > cannot find anything like AL in the Plesten area,
> > nor can I find anything on
> > the Western tripoint. Apart from abbreviations
> such
> > as "M" for Meiningen one
> > may expect on such stones the abbreviation for
> > "Herzogtum" = H, so that "HM"
> > would make sense to me.
>
> all fine mysteries & good reasons to advance the try
>
> so enough insertions already
> but one more
>
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