Subject: Re: AW: AW: [BoundaryPoint] 1806 bavaria coburg meinengen tripoint now looking like de2byth near plesten
Date: Nov 22, 2005 @ 15:14
Author: aletheia kallos (aletheia kallos <aletheiak@...>)
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> The Landkreise? Seems an easy one: CO = Coburg, KC =http://www26.mappy.com/sidmMqNWkFZ/1fMn21w/CFGMA?csl=m1&fsl=m1&gsl=m1&msl=m1
> Kronach, SON =
> Sonneberg.
> This all without going at
>
>&ids=&xsl=1&posl=poi&recherche=0&show_poi=0&poi_rr=0.5&poi_rx=0.6&poi_ry=0.5
>&lr=0.5&flash=1&gb=&out=2&wnm1=&wcm1=&nom1=&tnm1=plesten&pcm1=&tcm1=&a10m1=&
> ccm1=276&brand=&x=18&y=7http://www26.mappy.com/sidmMqNWkFZ/1fMn21w/CFGMA?csl=m1&fsl=m1&gsl=m1&msl=m1
>
> Once I try to access this site, my computer speaks
> French to me: "Votre
> session a expiré. Veuillez rafraichir la page."
> Napoleon still ruling
> Bavaria?
>
> How far did you go NE of Plesten? My map says it's
> 600 m only from downtown
> Plesten to the point of ultimate desire. Or did you
> think of going 4.5 - 5.5
> km ENE? The latter is out of question, as it is out
> of Sachsen-Coburg, I
> think.
>
> Wolfgang
>
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> [mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von
> aletheia kallos
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 22. November 2005 14:50
> An: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: Re: AW: [BoundaryPoint] 1806 bavaria coburg
> meinengen tripoint
> now looking like de2byth near plesten
>
>
> bravissimos maestro
>
> & i am reading you blitzen und donner these days
>
> & if i may continue to follow your or really jespers
> lead up this fantastic tripoint ascent
> then the following hopeful map from mappy even
> suggests a target tripoint
> almost squarely on the nipple
> or maybe it is the kisser
> of your lappet
> which is looking like a gargoyle of the first water
> there btw
>
>&ids=&xsl=1&posl=poi&recherche=0&show_poi=0&poi_rr=0.5&poi_rx=0.6&poi_ry=0.5
>&lr=0.5&flash=1&gb=&out=2&wnm1=&wcm1=&nom1=&tnm1=plesten&pcm1=&tcm1=&a10m1=&
> ccm1=276&brand=&x=18&y=7http://www.ena.lu/europe/success%20crisis/iron%20curtain%20border%20point%20
> or if this map is another bust too hahahaha then
> please just zoom yourself to the jurisdictional
> tripoint indicated evidently upon byth a hair north
> of
> due east of plesten
> where you will even find the convergent
> subdivisional
> line coming in from the correct direction
> seeing as coburg & old bavaria are both bavaria
>
> a wild guess but an exciting one
> dont you think
>
> & i just wanted to beam it out there even before
> learning the true names & diglyphs of the attendant
> landkreise
> if thats what they are
> to finally solve for de2byth3xxyyzz
>
> so anyone bavarian barbarbian philistine or yahoo
> enough
> please help out if you can & would to pin these
> mothers down before i do
> & together learn perhaps the true name of our lost
> gargoyle of pleisten tripoint
> if thats who she really is
>
> & just allow me a few insertions below too before i
> post these morning rushes posthaste
>
> --- Wolfgang Schaub
> <Wolfgang.Schaub@...> wrote:
>
> > Thank you for the stimulation. Like always, we
> just
> > need a kick in the ass.
>
> haha not me of course
> & you are most welcome
> the stimulation is mutual
>
> > Before even consulting the additional maps
> > suggested, I agree giving more
> > credit to the "Plesten" tripoint alternative, for
> > the following reasons:
> >
> > Looking at the picture
> >
>
> > three%20territories%201965.htm we have to imagine=== message truncated ===
> an
> > arrangement of these
> > markers such that their engravings face the
> > countries that they stand for.
> > This is only possible in a sensible way at the
> > Plesten (Eastern) tripoint,
> > and it is impossible at the Western tripoint
> between
> > Weitramsdorf and
> > Ummerstadt.
>
> good nice
>
> > If we assume the picture is taken towards East,
> the
> > central stone with the
> > GO then faces SW, right towards the Coburg
> portion
> > of Sachse-Coburg. The
> > left stone with the presumed AL on it is placed in
> a
> > 90-degree angle facing
> > NE, looking into the narrow "lobe/lappet/flap" of
> > Sachse-Meiningen, and the
> > small stone to the right may look anywhere it
> likes
> > as long as it is true
> > that it is "only" a marker of the next-best
> village.
>
> could be barbaria oops i mean bavaria
>
> > Such a setting would
> > not be possible at the Western tripoint, even if
> we
> > twist our heads.
>
> nice
>
> > The hypothesis is "supported" by the fact that
> there
> > is a country road going
> > from Plesten toward NE that touches the
> > Bavaria/Thuringia border precisely
> > at the place where the pic may have been taken.
>
> yes & we have a road near my above guess too
> tho i am not sure if you mean this road
>
> > Imagining somebody taking
> > border pictures in the Cold War this would only
> have
> > been "safe" if you took
> > them either from a public road or out of the
> window
> > of your car. Approaching
> > the border on foot from the West, across open
> > fields, was thrilling if not
> > dangerous - again, the "easiest" pic-taking
> position
> > for a journalist was NE
> > of Plesten. The Western tripoint is not accessible
> > by car.
>
> good
> further corroboration we have the right tripoint
>
> > Additional support for the hypothesis is provided
> by
> > the fact that you see
> > the border running through the background of the
> > picture (the white poles),
> > nicely in conformance with my 1: 300,000 road map.
> > Well, I also have maps 1
> > : 200,000, and quickly making looky-looky on those
> > does not produce anything
> > in addition, nor to the contrary.
> >
> > Unfortunately, these bloody markers and poles do
> not
> > throw shadows
> > supporting the hypothesis.
> >
> > Remains the mystery what the stone left in the
> > picture wants to tell us. I
> > cannot find anything like AL in the Plesten area,
> > nor can I find anything on
> > the Western tripoint. Apart from abbreviations
> such
> > as "M" for Meiningen one
> > may expect on such stones the abbreviation for
> > "Herzogtum" = H, so that "HM"
> > would make sense to me.
>
> all fine mysteries & good reasons to advance the try
>
> so enough insertions already
> but one more
>