Subject: further revisions in prefectural punctoscopy of japan
Date: Nov 18, 2005 @ 14:16
Author: aletheia kallos (aletheia kallos <aletheiak@...>)
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ahh ok then
i guess i should not have assumed you were aware of
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/17440
which happily forestalls or retires a lot of this
possible confusion too

&
the 2 additional data in your point 3 have been
gratefully inserted to my summary below it
where i have also correspondingly increased the
provincial mikuni total from 17 to 19

--- Hugh Wallis <hugh@...> wrote:

> Thanks
>
> A couple of addtional details/clarifications that
> might help those
> interested enough to wade through this
>
> 1. >>are or were also provincial tripoint peaks or
> mikuni<< - I don't think
> you are intending to imply that "provincial tripoint
> peaks" and "mikuni" are
> synonymous - "mikuni" means literally "3 countries"
> and so can be applied to
> any tripoint, peak or not I believe.
>
> 2. Also, the list you have provided are all of
> current tripoints. It is the
> list at <http://www.glin.jp/nam/mikuni.html>
> http://www.glin.jp/nam/mikuni.html which also
> contains points that were
> mikuni in the Edo era but no longer are - see
>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/18393
> (where, I notice,
> it doesn't render the Kanji charactes correctly :(
> ) for more detailed
> explanation - and so I don't think the word "were"
> is needed
>
> 3. I have independently cross referenced the list
> below to the list at
> <http://www.glin.jp/nam/mikuni.html>
> http://www.glin.jp/nam/mikuni.html -
> and there appear to be two omissions in your list
> below - namely
>
> gmnnni > > 10 gumma 26 nagano 29 niigata - is item45
> sttkyn > > 34 saitama 40 tokyo 46 yamanashi - is
> item7
>
>
> On your last question "were you aware of being at a
> provincial tripoint peak
> or mikuni" I'm not sure what you are trying to get
> at - sure I was aware of
> it - that's why I went there in the first place :)
> But I don't think that is
> what you really meant - hehehe
>
> As I posted in my report, there were a number of
> signs around indicating it
> was a "Mikuni" - in fact the hill itself is called
> "Mikuni Mountain" (in
> Japanese of course) as you can observe from the
> signs I photographed. I just
> noticed that I had not included photos of two
> additional signs that were at
> the top of the hill, at the Mikuni point, - my page
> at
> http://tinyurl.com/9gzsz has now been updated with
> these two additional
> photos. http://tinyurl.com/alw2o is especially
> detailed. I'm not sure what
> the other one is saying (maybe "Don't jump off the
> cliff" - I don't know!!)
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Cheers
>
> Hugh
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of aletheiak
> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 5:21 PM
> To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [BoundaryPoint] revised prefectural
> punctoscopy of japan thanxx
> again especially to hugh & henry
>
>
> major insertions into previous roundup are fairly
> obvious from their missing
> carets
> tho some other additions & corrections are just
> quiety added now too
>
> > cribbing from the zoomable map links provided by
> this site in vertical
> column 6
> > thanx to henry
> > http://www.glin.jp/nam/mikuni.html
> > it looks like as many as 19 of the 44 confirmed
> & now likely 48
> total prefectural tripoints
> > as indicated by the item numbers following their
> names below
> > are or were also provincial tripoint peaks or
> mikuni
>
> & look for the 4 maritimes & other key insertions
> below now too thanx to
> hugh
> mostly taken from
>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/18787
> which includes various other data too
>
> & i should add
> using the prefectural numbers seemed like a bright
> idea on the first go
> round
> & they have been continued here since i find they do
> assist identification
> but if you use them please be careful to notice
> number 47 okinawa has been
> inserted as
> an afterthought between 31 & 32 in the otherwise
> perfectly alphanumerical
> series
> per
> http://statoids.com/ujp.html
> who btw is also the trustworthy source for all these
> diglyphs
>
> aigfme > > 1 aichi 9 gifu 23 mie wet per hw
> aigfnn > > 1 aichi 9 gifu 26 nagano item13
> ainnsz > > 1 aichi 26 nagano 37 shizuoka wet per hw
> akaoiw > > 2 akita 3 aomori 16 iwate
> akiwmg > > 2 akita 16 iwate 24 miyagi
> akmgyt > > 2 akita 24 miyagi 44 yamagata
> chibst > > 4 chiba 14 ibaraki 34 saitama wet per hw
> chsttk > > 4 chiba 35 saitama 40 tokyo wet possibly
> ehhskg maritime 5 ehime 11 hiroshima 17 kagawa
> ehhsyc maritime 5 ehime 11 hiroshima 45 yamaguchi
> ehkgts > > 5 ehime 17 kagawa 39 tokushima wet
> possibly
> ehkcts > > 5 ehime 20 kochi 39 tokushima item34
> figfis > > 6 fukui 9 gifu 15 ishikawa
> figfsh > > 6 fukui 9 gifu 35 shiga item16
> fikysh > > 6 fukui 22 kyoto 36 shiga item19
> fokmot > > 7 fukuoka 21 kumamoto 30 oita item35
> fsgmni > > 8 fukushima 10 gumma 29 niigata damp per
> hw
> fsgmtc > > 8 fukushima 10 gumma 38 tochigi
> fsibtc > > 8 fukushima 14 ibaraki 38 tochigi class e
> fsmgyt > > 8 fukushima 24 miyagi 44 yamagata
> fsniyt > > 8 fukushima 29 niigata 44 yamagata item3
> gfisty > > 9 gifu 15 ishikawa 42 toyama
> gfmesh > > 9 gifu 23 mie 35 shiga item17
> gfnnty > > 9 gifu 26 nagano 42 toyama item11
> gmnnni > > 10 gumma 26 nagano 29 niigata item45
> gmnnst > > 10 gumma 26 nagano 34 saitama item5
> gmsttc > > 10 gumma 34 saitama 38 tochigi class e
> hskgoy maritime 11 hiroshima 17 kagawa 33 okayama
> hsoytt > > 11 hiroshima 31 okayama 41 tottori item31
> hssmtt > > 11 hiroshima 36 shimane 41 tottori item30
> hssmyc > > 11 hiroshima 36 shimane 45 yamaguchi mt
> kammuri 1339m
> hgkgoy maritime 13 hyogo 17 kagawa 31 okayama
> hgkyos > > 13 hyogo 22 kyoto 32 osaka
> hgoytt > > 13 hyogo 31 okayama 41 tottori
> ibsttc > > 14 ibaraki 34 saitama 38 tochigi wet
> class d
> kskmmz > > 18 kagoshima 21 kumamoto 25 miyazaki
> knszyn > > 19 kanagawa 37 shizuoka 46 yamanashi
> item8 class a
> kntkyn > > 19 kanagawa 40 tokyo 46 yamanashi item7
> kmmzot > > 21 kumamoto 25 miyazaki 30 oita
> kymenr > > 22 kyoto 23 mie 28 nara class e
> kymesh > > 22 kyoto 23 mie 35 shiga item21
> kynros > > 22 kyoto 28 nara 32 osaka
> menrwk > > 23 mie 28 nara 43 wakayama wet possibly
> nnnity > > 26 nagano 29 niigata 42 toyama item4
> nnstyn > > 26 nagano 34 saitama 46 yamanashi item6
> nnszyn > > 26 nagano 37 shizuoka 46 yamanashi item10
> nroswk > > 28 nara 32 osaka 43 wakayama
> sttkyn > > 34 saitama 40 tokyo 46 yamanashi item7
>
> > for the distinction between prefectures &
> provinces
> > http://www.answers.com/topic/provinces-of-japan
>
>
> & an afterthought question for hugh
>
> when you visited knszyn
> were you aware of being at a provincial tripoint
> peak or mikuni
> per item 8
>
> this fact alone could explain why you found the rock
> there & not say at
> kymenr or gmsttc
> & suggests we may find no fewer but also no more
> than 16 additional rocks at
> the 16
> remaining mikuni points
>
>
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