Subject: RE: [borderpoint] Re: Spanish provincial tripoint marker... or not
Date: Sep 12, 2005 @ 17:37
Author: Hugh Wallis ("Hugh Wallis" <hugh@...>)
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Hello Peter and Jimmy
 
I have visited this tripoint and you can find the results of my visit documented at http://tinyurl.com/baglc
 
I have copied this to boundarypoint since I have now been reliably informed that is the correct place to discuss tripointing and I don't want to step on people's toes, being new and all :)
 
Cheers
 
Hugh


From: borderpoint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:borderpoint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jimvandura
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 11:26 PM
To: borderpoint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [borderpoint] Re: Spanish provincial tripoint marker... or not

--- In borderpoint@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@y...> wrote:
> On the website http://www.albaiges.com/historia/historiatresreyes.htm
> there is a picture of the tripoint of the Spanish regions Navarre, La
> Rioja, and Aragon (provinces Navarre, La Rioja, Zaragoza). It should
> be at the side of the road (the N113 according to my Michelin road
> map), and that road can be seen in the pictures. Convincing so far.
>
> But on the map sites of Navarre ( http://sitna.tracasa.es/ ) and La
> Rioja (direct access to relevant map at
> http://www.larioja.org/sig/imagenes/5000/25tp2927.gif ) the "mojón de
> los tres reyes" is not at this roadside, but at the other side of the
> railway, to the northwest of the location at the road.
>
> Maybe there are two markers: the "correct" one, and the one on the
> roadside. The one in the pictures very much resembles other such
> roadside markers in Spain, which I suspect mark the border of the
> provincial road network authorities more accurately than that they
> mark the provincial territories themselves.
>
> Does somebody have any thoughts on this?
>
> Peter

Hi! Jimmy Van Dura, class of '75, at your service, having just joined both your fascinating
point lists. And I was a little confused how this subject qualified as an international
boundary topic rather than a tripoint topic. But I think you got it exactly right in the end,
Peter, and that the pictures are not really "of the tripoint," as they were said to be.
     It is amazing how much false information there is on the web, but also how misleading
the written word can be -- wherever it is found. For example, seeing Zaragoza written on
the sunny side on this triangular "Welcome To ..." or "Entering ..." sign, a reader might
expect to find more than just the scant hectare of Zaragoza that remains between the
roadway and the real mojon some few meters to its north! For in fact the vast majority of
Zaragoza lies exactly in the opposite direction!
     But is there someone in the neighborhood who might be able to check and follow your
detailed map to perhaps find the real border marker sitting on the true tripoint? ...or the
true tripoint sitting on the real border marker?

Best,
Jim