Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Cyprus - SBA Maritime Boundaries
Date: Jul 23, 2005 @ 20:26
Author: Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...>)
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While I understand the concept of your "everyones land," I think it
inappropriate to apply the term "land" to what is not land, but rather sea. The
largest true Everyone's LAND would be part (or all) of Antarctica (depending on
who you choose to believe)--and about a quarter of Antarctica is doubtfully
land, really just a solid sea, the ice-earth interface being well below sea
level. (Somehow, an iceberg sitting on the sea bottom never quite qualified as
land in my view.)

So, what is wrong with the age-old and widely accepted term "high seas"?

Lowell G. McManus
Leesville, Louisiana, USA


----- Original Message -----
From: "aletheia kallos" <aletheiak@...>
To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 8:05 AM
Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Cyprus - SBA Maritime Boundaries


> but just to at least consider the multipoints implied
> by your offering
> i believe there are 4 in all
> or 1 tripoint upon each of your 4 cygb maritime
> projections
> situated 3nm seaward from their respective coastal
> baseline points
>
> & these are specifically the points where british
> sovereign seas & cyprian sovereign seas meet the high
> seas or everyonese sovereign seas if you will
> either still only putatively or already legally
> tho i am not sure which
>
> & these tripoints in bp code
> adopting el for everyones land or high seas
> while invoking the blessings of our iso guardians for
> doing so
> might each be expressed as cyelgb
>
> but then how to distinguish among them
>
> i would suggest
> reading from left to right
> either
> cyelgbww cyelgbwe cyelgbew cyelgbee
> or if that is too confusing then
> cyelgb1 cyelgb2 cyelgb3 cyelgb4
>
> --- aletheiak <aletheiak@...> wrote:
>
>> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "L. A.
>> Nadybal" <lnadybal@c...> wrote:
>> > I just posted in "photos" a smalll version of the
>> map of the nautical
>> > boundaries that the US State Department created
>> according to input
>> > from the British, after DoS was unable to get the
>> map attached to the
>> > treaty.
>> >
>> > Anyone who would like the large scan can ask
>> off-line.
>> >
>> > It is clear that the eastern SBA forms a closed
>> area - the E & W
>> > borders meet about 32 nautical miles off shore
>> (within which there are
>> > international waters eliminating any chance of the
>> area being an
>> > enclave or an exclave. The British claim 3 miles
>> of sovereign
>> > territory off shore under existing treaties to
>> which the British
>> > subscribe, and the Cypriots claim 12.
>> >
>> > With the SBA also comprised of a pumping station
>> or whatever it is,
>> > the sea boundaries would be incomplete, unless the
>> pumping station on
>> > the coast has no maritime component (and is
>> therefore enclaved). Can
>> > anyone help with that?
>> >
>> >
>> > LN
>>
>> yes
>> as you have somewhat correctly recalled
>> the power station was believed to have no maritime
>> component when last reported
>>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/2158
>>
>> but also
>> beyond the claimed territorial seas of 3nm & 12nm
>> from coastal baselines respectively
>> the boundaries shown on your map were purely
>> hypothetical
>> as was explained in its accompanying source document
>>
> http://www.law.fsu.edu/library/collection/LimitsinSeas/ls049.pdf
>> & they most probably still are
>>
>> so here again it is only your idea of what is clear
>> that is confused
>>
>>
>> assumptive reasoning
>> while sometimes very useful
>> can if carelessly applied actually erode clarity
>>
>>
>> no multipoints however were injured or even
>> considered in the making of these messages
>
>
>
>
>
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