hahahahaha
ok so let me get this straight now fabio
based on your clarifications here below
as well as in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/17776
your refined as well as enlarged request addresses individually every so called continent
except antarctica now
totalling 6 categories in number
as well as
separately
all the islands that are sometimes associated with every so called continent except
antarctica
totalling 6 additional categories
but in this case covering only the vaguely implied outlying areas
rather than the 6 explicit so called continental mainland areas
& moreover
you are seeking in each of these 12 cases in all
first
the populated place with highest latitude that has a name & has been continuously
occupied by 2 or more people & a post office for the most recent 12 months
& then in addition
the point of land with highest latitude that has a name & has not been continuously
occupied by 2 or more people & a post office for the most recent 12 months
thus totalling now 24 separate quests
&
moreover
your interest extends in all these 24 cases first to the named place with highest latitude
but then secondarily to the highest point of altitude upon or within that named place
& finally but only incidentally to the longitude of that point
totalling now 48 or 96 or possibly even 192 separate quests
for i am still not entirely sure what you do want
but in any case please confirm & or correct this impression of your question
before anyone is so silly as to endeavor to answer
because we are originally & primarily a former multipointing society
we are still & possibly permanently imbued with an interest in punctiliousness
& therefore slobberiness in all its forms can only amuse & entertain us
& there is no question of boredom here
true trypointers are never bored
--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "fabio" <fabiov@f...> wrote:
> yes Lowell,
> I agree with you. It is hard to make difference between "town or village". So in my latest
post I asked 8 queries about "village" with the meaning of "not temporary settlement" (so it
is OK a village, a town or a base or station, where there are people living there the whole
year through)" BUT NOT TEMPORARY/SEASONAL and EXISTING TO DAY and not in the past
time.
> So, in my mind, a small village is surely OK and it could be good even a weather or
radio station or a lighthouse.
> Of course Hammerfest can be uppermost northern TOWN of "the continental Europe"
(town with a population of more than 9000 people)".
> Best regards Fabio
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Lowell G. McManus
> To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 4:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Hammerfest or?
>
>
> That must be a very European notion that governmental authority is required to make a
town a town Perhaps it is more American and republican to say that the people make a
town. If people had to be born there for a town to be a town, there are historic examples
of American settlements with populations in the tens of thousands that would not qualify
as towns because none of them were born there (except for the newest children).
>
> It is because of the difficulty in defining what is a town, and the lack of specificity in
the original question, that I used the geographical term "settlement" in my answer.
>
> Lowell G. McManus
> Leesville, Louisiana, USA
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Wolfgang Schaub
> To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 3:38 AM
> Subject: AW: [BoundaryPoint] Hammerfest or?
>
>
> The question is: What is a "town". Alert, Nord, Kaffeklubben etc. are settlements, but
do not really sound like "towns" in the European sense of the word. A town, as I
understand, has to have certain rights as an administrative center, should also be
inhabited by permanent settlers, better even: by people born there. This all applies to
Longyearbyen.
>
> Pyramiden and Ny Alesund on Svalbard have been settlements in the past, even more
northerly, but are not inhabited anymore, after coal mining has become too unprofitable.
>
> Wolfgang
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com]Im
Auftrag von Lowell G. McManus
> Gesendet: Samstag, 14. Mai 2005 23:33
> An: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Hammerfest or?
>
>
> I would vote for Alert as the most northerly settlement. A military base is the
> functional equivalent of a company town--not different from mining towns, lumber
> towns, etc. If someone dislikes military settlements, the next most northerly
> settlement would be the one in Greenland with the appropriate name Nord.
>
> The northernmost point of land in the world is a small island along the northern
> coast of Greenland called Kaffeklubben Ø.
>
> Lowell G. McManus
> Leesville, Louisiana, USA
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "fabio" <fabiov@f...>
> To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 11:15 AM
> Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Hammerfest or?
>
>
> > Hello!
> > I post this query here, hoping not to bore anybody.
> > In a trivial pursuit query there is written that "the town Hammerfest in
> > Norway is the upper most northern town in the world".
> > Well, I know that there is the military Canadian base ALERT (with its post
> > office available also to civilian people) which is surely northern than
> > Hammersfest, but surely there are some villages in Svalbard islands or in
> > Asian Russian territory, or in Alaska.
> > Probably, before answering, we must define the word "town", the word
> > "village", also we must decide if the people must live there all the year or
> > if we accept a place where people live there only in Summer season (
> > temporary base).... or if can decide on
> > the fact that there it must be a governmental post office with a specific
> > ZIP international code,.. or if we are speaking of a "continental town" or a
> > town on an island... or something else...
> > Well, the question is:
> > which is the uppermost northern TOWN in the world?
> > Any help?
> > Best regards Fabio