if it doesnt exist
then how can you presume to translate it
hahahahaha
& i would buy extraterritorial waters for example in english
but only if territorial waters are being implied or discussed in the same breath
but again
extraterritorial area
in english
could at best just mean an area that is out of the regular bounds in some sense
& not at all necessarily an area with any specially constituted legal status
so far as i know
since 1961 such a status as you are groping to express is just called inviolability
--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Anton Zeilinger" <anton_zeilinger@h...> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Funnily enough, the word "extraterritorial" does not really exist in
> German, the correct word would be "exterritorial", which translates as
> the English "extraterritorial"; but I guess that is what was meant here.
>
> "Gebiet" is indeed "area", and I concur with Len that the
> phrase "extraterritorial area" is not redundant at all!
>
> And Len has also touched upon the fact that it has been well settled in
> international law that all so-called extraterritorial/exterritorial
> areas like embassies, missions, military cemetaries, monuments,
> military bases and the like remain part of the state they are situated
> in; all that happens is that certain immunities or promises of
> inviolability are granted - sovereignty is only transferred if this is
> explicitly stated in the relevant treaty (which has extremely rarely,
> if at all, happened in these cases).
>
> Any other speculations in the direction of mini-enclaves or other
> peculiarities are, of course, great fun, but not based on international
> law.
>
> Cheerio,
> Anton
>
>
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "L. A. Nadybal" <lnadybal@c...>
> wrote:
> > It isn't a redundant phrase - "Extraterritorial" means the same as it
> > does in English - the "es" is only a grammatical suffix.
> >
> > Gebiet is not solely "territory" as in a political way except in the
> > sense of a "place we posses and rule that has dimensions", but more as
> > an "area" or "grounds", as in "mein Fachgebiet" which is "my area of
> > expertise". Or, as after the end of WW II, when the British and US
> > sectors of W. Germany were economically merged and became the
> > "Vereinigte Wirtschaftsgebiet" a.k.a. "Bi-Zone", where "Gebiet" was
> > officially translated to mean "Zone" in the German equal of the US
> > Federal Register (the "Gesetzblatt").
> >
> >
> >
> > Len