Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Islands in dispute between USA and others
Date: Apr 16, 2005 @ 16:35
Author: Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...>)
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----- Original Message -----
From: "aletheia kallos" <aletheiak@...>
To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Islands in dispute between USA and others
>
> well as i say
> i dont know
> but i do see martin mentions both of them here in 2001
>
> http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:b0juLLtsGgsJ:www.gmat.unsw.edu.au/ablos/ABLOS01Folder/PRATT.PDF+roncador+serrana+quita+serranilla+bajo&hl=en&client=safari
> aka
> http://www.gmat.unsw.edu.au/ablos/ABLOS01Folder/PRATT.PDF
> footnote 3 on page 5
> in the same breath with the 1972 treaty that you &
> your apparently authoritative american web page
> mention in order to dispose of them
> & which you also seem to be not entirely satisfied
> with
> yet he seems to go so far as to deliberately avoid the
> opportunity to connect them with that treaty
>
> so until & unless he honors us with an explanation for
> his reserve
> have you or anyone else actually seen this treaty
>
> --- "Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...> wrote:
>> The questions of Bajo Nuevo and Serranilla Banks
>> have been substantially
>> resolved, especially as far as the USA is concerned.
>> They were covered in the
>> same treaty (signed 1972, effective 1981) by which
>> the US recognized Colombian
>> sovereignty over Roncador Cay and Serrana and Quita
>> Sueño Banks. They just
>> don't get mentioned as often as the others because
>> of their lesser significance.
>> At that time, Honduras was still operating
>> lighthouses on Bajo Nuevo and
>> Serranilla, but they cleared out in 1986 in exchange
>> for Colombia's recognition
>> of Honduran sovereignty over a few islands closer to
>> home. I cannot speak as to
>> the current stands of Jamaica and Nicaragua relative
>> to Bajo Nuevo and
>> Serranilla.
>>
>> Most significantly as far as the USA is concerned,
>> the US Office of Insular
>> Affairs concludes its "Formerly Disputed" web page
>> at
>> http://www.doi.gov/oia/Islandpages/disputedpage.htm
>> with the statement,
>> "REMAINING US CLAIMS; None." Of course, this is
>> after discussing Navassa and
>> Wake as unquestionably ours. Of course, the dispute
>> over Machias Seal Island
>> and North Rock are entirely out of the purview of
>> the Office of Insular Affairs.
>>
>> Lowell G. McManus
>> Leesville, Louisiana, USA
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "aletheiak" <aletheiak@...>
>> To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 12:20 AM
>> Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Islands in dispute
>> between USA and others
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G.
>> McManus" <mcmanus71496@m...>
>> > wrote:
>> >> Fabio wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > It would be nice to discover if and which are
>> the DISPUTED islands between
>> >> > U.S. and the other Countries.
>> >>
>> >> The CIA World Factbook lists:
>> >>
>> >> 1. Machias Seal Island and North Rock are
>> disputed with Canada as part of
>> >> maritime boundary disputes over the waters around
>> them and elsewhere.
>> >>
>> >> 2. Haiti claims Navassa.
>> >>
>> >> 3. The Republic of the Marshall Islands
>> claims Wake.
>> >
>> > & many other sources add
>> > variously
>> > tho i dont know what to believe
>> > 4 bajo nuevo bank aka petrel island or islands
>> > &
>> > 5 serranilla bank
>> > naming in both cases jamaica nicaragua columbia &
>> honduras
>> > at least somewhat
>> >
>> > which if true is staggeringly fantastic news
>> > since it elevates these banks to the level of
>> louisa reef & perhaps a very few
>> > other
>> > individual spratleys that have so many as 5
>> claimants each
>> > & thus present at least a 3 way tie for most
>> coveted individual speck in the
>> > world
>> >
>> >
>> >> Lowell G. McManus
>> >> Leesville, Louisiana, USA
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