well as i say
i dont know
but i do see martin mentions both of them here in 2001

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:b0juLLtsGgsJ:www.gmat.unsw.edu.au/ablos/ABLOS01Folder/PRATT.PDF+roncador+serrana+quita+serranilla+bajo&hl=en&client=safari
aka
http://www.gmat.unsw.edu.au/ablos/ABLOS01Folder/PRATT.PDF
footnote 3 on page 5
in the same breath with the 1972 treaty that you &
your apparently authoritative american web page
mention in order to dispose of them
& which you also seem to be not entirely satisfied
with
yet he seems to go so far as to deliberately avoid the
opportunity to connect them with that treaty

so until & unless he honors us with an explanation for
his reserve
have you or anyone else actually seen this treaty

--- "Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...> wrote:

> The questions of Bajo Nuevo and Serranilla Banks
> have been substantially
> resolved, especially as far as the USA is concerned.
> They were covered in the
> same treaty (signed 1972, effective 1981) by which
> the US recognized Colombian
> sovereignty over Roncador Cay and Serrana and Quita
> Sue�o Banks. They just
> don't get mentioned as often as the others because
> of their lesser significance.
> At that time, Honduras was still operating
> lighthouses on Bajo Nuevo and
> Serranilla, but they cleared out in 1986 in exchange
> for Colombia's recognition
> of Honduran sovereignty over a few islands closer to
> home. I cannot speak as to
> the current stands of Jamaica and Nicaragua relative
> to Bajo Nuevo and
> Serranilla.
>
> Most significantly as far as the USA is concerned,
> the US Office of Insular
> Affairs concludes its "Formerly Disputed" web page
> at
> http://www.doi.gov/oia/Islandpages/disputedpage.htm
> with the statement,
> "REMAINING US CLAIMS; None." Of course, this is
> after discussing Navassa and
> Wake as unquestionably ours. Of course, the dispute
> over Machias Seal Island
> and North Rock are entirely out of the purview of
> the Office of Insular Affairs.
>
> Lowell G. McManus
> Leesville, Louisiana, USA
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "aletheiak" <aletheiak@...>
> To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 12:20 AM
> Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Islands in dispute
> between USA and others
>
>
> >
> >
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G.
> McManus" <mcmanus71496@m...>
> > wrote:
> >> Fabio wrote:
> >>
> >> > It would be nice to discover if and which are
> the DISPUTED islands between
> >> > U.S. and the other Countries.
> >>
> >> The CIA World Factbook lists:
> >>
> >> 1. Machias Seal Island and North Rock are
> disputed with Canada as part of
> >> maritime boundary disputes over the waters around
> them and elsewhere.
> >>
> >> 2. Haiti claims Navassa.
> >>
> >> 3. The Republic of the Marshall Islands
> claims Wake.
> >
> > & many other sources add
> > variously
> > tho i dont know what to believe
> > 4 bajo nuevo bank aka petrel island or islands
> > &
> > 5 serranilla bank
> > naming in both cases jamaica nicaragua columbia &
> honduras
> > at least somewhat
> >
> > which if true is staggeringly fantastic news
> > since it elevates these banks to the level of
> louisa reef & perhaps a very few
> > other
> > individual spratleys that have so many as 5
> claimants each
> > & thus present at least a 3 way tie for most
> coveted individual speck in the
> > world
> >
> >
> >> Lowell G. McManus
> >> Leesville, Louisiana, USA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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