this is almost definitely the right frame
for i recognize both the elcili area near the top
& the great bend area around pithion at the bottom
& so your roughly 25 km of coverage here almost
certainly includes the entire probable target area
based on all the distances given in the ibs text
& so many more candidate islands now to choose from
hahaha
but the railroad bridge also mentioned by the ibs as
being a couple of km upstream from island q is not
visible in this photo
no bridge visible anywhere in this photo
oops
but perhaps it is just too narrow &or too dark to show
up
for the ibs 41 map 1 does indeed show a railroad
crossing
& shows it roughly where an unbridged road crossing
does appear
at lower right in this sat pic
just below the stream confluence
not that that railroad necessarily has to be the right
railroad either tho
hahaha
so i dont know where that leaves us
except there is a candidate island just below this
apparently unbridged road crossing
a bit too close & a bit too big tho
hmmm
not that islands or bridges on this famously wild
river could be expected to stay put for 80 years
either tho
so i have to admit we still need more data
but are damn close
possibly just off frame downstream too
hahaha
--- Jesper Nielsen <
jesniel@...> wrote:
> Furthe south
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: aletheiak
> To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 12:08 AM
> Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Q, the divided island
> on GRTR
>
>
>
> if you go to
> http://www.locatienet.nl
> & give elcili for plaats in the ik wil naar box
> & change nederland to turkije
> & click on toon karte
> the toon town map they give does show a best
> available
> candidate island a few km upriver from elcili
> but obviously a better map is still needed
>
> also i have concluded your sat pix are indeed too
> far north
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, aletheia
> kallos
> <aletheiak@y...> wrote:
> > edirne itself is about 10km upriver from where
> the
> > border kicks back into the maritsa
> > & elcili & q are about 40km downriver from
> edirne
> >
> > so unless you have some better idea of the
> direction &
> > scale of these pix than i do
> > my guess is they are both too far north in any
> case
> >
> > --- Jesper Nielsen <jesniel@i...> wrote:
> >
> > > Enclosed satellite images south of Edirne.
> > >
> > > Jesper
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: aletheiak
> > > To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 10:45 PM
> > > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Q, the divided
> island
> > > on GRTR
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > on the map you provide in your second link
> > > the island q is of course too small to be
> shown
> > > but it must be situated pretty close to the
> town
> > > of elcili
> > > near the lower left corner of the upper
> right
> > > quadrant
> > > since this ibs text & its 2 maps do give
> exact
> > > mileages & show
> > > landmarks that permit this guess to be
> constructed
> > > which tho still only a guess
> > > is awfully well educated
> > >
> > > on a better map we might be able to put our
> finger
> > > on q because
> > > it is of substantial & known length anyway
> > >
> > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com,
> "Jesper
> > > Nielsen"
> > > <jesniel@i...> wrote:
> > > > Where is the divided island, Q mentioned
> on page
> > > 7 of
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
http://www.law.fsu.edu/library/collection/LimitsinSeas/IBS041.pdf
> > > >
> > > >
> http://www.adiyamanli.org/MapofTurkey/a1.htm
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> http://www.sieurasia.com/english/html/eng_index.htm
> > > >
> > > > Jesper
> > >
> > >
> > >
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