As a former New Jerseyan I can testify to the inferiority complexes its
inhabitants seem to acquire with regard to NYC and Philadelphia, but picking
on Delaware is an uncommon thing. They should be careful because that's
where all the gunpowder and dynamite originated!
The worse battle was that which took place over Ellis and Liberty islands
due to the strange nature of the jurisdictional matter. As I understand it,
although the de jure boundary is the middle of the Hudson, NY Bay and the
Kill Van Kull/Arthur Kill -- placing the islands within NJ -- NY maintained
defacto jurisdiction over the surface of the waters and any land above them
at low tide, including Ellis and Liberty/Bedloes, right up to the wharfs in
Jersey City, Bayonne, etc. So NJ got stuck with the muck underneath but with
no say over the commerce above it until the Ellis Island resolution
regarding the full areas.
A boundary question: Does anyone know whether the demarcation between East
Jersey and West Jersey was ever monumented on the ground?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lowell G. McManus [mailto:mcmanus71496@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 1:19 PM
> To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] river condo authority joins denj follies
>
>
>
> You are entirely correct. This is an "anomaly" only in New
> Jersey's experience.
> It is no different in theory from the numerous other river
> bank boundaries among
> the American states. The sense of unique persecution
> perceived by the New
> Jersey politicians is testimony to their ignorance of
> political geography.
>
> Pronouncements that it is archaic and overdue for changing
> miss the point. When
> a man freely bargains away his property, his heirs are bound
> by his act. The
> Duke of York deeded that segment of the river (along with the
> rest of northern
> Delaware) to William Penn; and the State of New Jersey is His
> Royal Highness's
> political heir. If New Jersey wants the LNG wharf built in
> Delaware, they
> should make nice to Delaware, not bluster and threaten.
>
> Lowell G. McManus
> Leesville, Louisiana, USA
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Flynn, Kevin" <flynnk@...>
> To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 12:20 PM
> Subject: RE: [BoundaryPoint] river condo authority joins denj follies
>
>
> >
> > Why do the NJ politicians keep referring to this boundary
> as an "anomaly"
> > when it has been known since it was set up? I used to work
> in Gloucester
> > County NJ and we knew about it. It's not very different in
> principle from
> > the riverbank issues along MDVA. KYOH or OKTX, is it?
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: aletheia kallos [mailto:aletheiak@...]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 8:37 AM
> >> To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> >> Subject: [BoundaryPoint] river condo authority joins denj follies
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> it gets better as it goes
> >> http://www.nj.com/news/sunbeam/index.ssf?/base/news-2/11109648
> >> 14215190.xml
> >>
> >>
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