--- In
BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G. McManus"
<mcmanus71496@m...> wrote:
> Since you asked for opinions, I opine that a peninsula should
at least appear to
> protrude from a main body of land.
i agree with all your findings below
& also find your above opinion so agreeable that i have decided
to rethink the entire olympic medal exercise from scratch based
upon this opinion alone & without any preconceptions as to what
is or isnt a peninsula
so
revoking all the medals previously awarded
& searching the entire afroeurasian continent with fresh eyes for
the necks of the greatest apparent protrusions of all
i am immediately struck by a previously unnoticed but veritable
waistline
rather than any mere neckline
running between the white sea & persian gulf
which appears to divide the entire land mass roughly equally into
2 such huge & so nearly balanced protrusions that it is hard to
tell which is the land mass & which the protrusion
call them the asiatic peninsula on the right & the afroeuropean
peninsula on the left & dont mind that these names are only
approximately exact & that most of the middle east is
afroeuropean in this scheme
rather than asiatic as you might expect
but just behold them as apparent protrusions so primary & basic
that they might rather & quite fairly be called
the left & right lobes
of afroeurasia
& it would be to these lobes that i would award the gold & silver
tho i am not yet sure which lobe is larger & thus would win gold
however once i settle that question
i will be able to save the bronze medal entirely since all of the
afroeurasian continent would already have been awarded either
the gold or silver medal
& there would be nothing left of it to win the bronze
& this without ever having to recognize africa or europe or siberia
or indochina or anything so conventional or mundane as all that
for in this scheme africa & europe are both just peninsular parts
of a single greater peninsula
onto which are attached the arabian & anatolian peninsulas as
well for good measure
end inserts
Thus, my vote for the neck of the peninsula
> in eastern Siberia is a line beginning at the mouth of the Uda
River in the
> Udskaya Guba at the northwest corner of the Sea of Okhotsk
and running only a
> little west of true north to the maximum indentation of the Guba
Buor Khaya in
> the Laptev Sea. I am viewing this on a National Geographic
Society map of the
> "Eastern Soviet Union." The same NGS map boldly labels this
protrusion from
> Asia with the regional name "Magadan." So, I propose that we
call it the
> Magadan Peninsula, and consider it something of a mirror to
the neighboring
> peninsula occupied largely by Alaska (although the name
"Alaska Peninsula" is
> given to the much smaller stub from which the Aleutian Islands
trail).
>
> Interestingly, a physical map reveals that this Magadan is
physically divided
> from the rest of Siberia by the Dzhugdzhur and Yerkhoyansk
Ranges, which neatly
> snake between the beginning and ending points proposed
above for the neck line
> of the peninsula. Magadan is part of the American tectonic
plate, and the
> mountains result where it grinds against the Eurasian plate.
>
> Lowell G. McManus
> Leesville, Louisiana, USA
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "aletheia kallos" <aletheiak@y...>
> To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 2:08 PM
> Subject: europe v siberia was Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: eupen
and malmedy
>
>
> >
> > since the best available opinion on the true extent of
> > the siberian peninsula is still not yet available
> > i have contented myself for the moment with getting
> > the best available opinion on the true extent of
> > siberia per se
> > or greater siberia if you will
> > thinking that with this data in hand i myself could
> > then serve in the capacity of the absent minded
> > professor interpolator of the true geographic extent
> > of the true siberian peninsula within a greater best
> > available siberia
> > just as the peninsula professor has interpolated the
> > true geographic extent of the european peninsula
> > within a greater best available europe
> >
> > & it just so happens that the same best available
> > opinion that says greater europe begins & ends at the
> > ural mountains also says that greater siberia begins &
> > ends at the ural mountains too
> > hahahahaha
> > so europe & siberia are actually not only neighbors &
> > classmates but are actually squared off back to back
> > in this duel for second place silver in our old world
> > peninsular olympics
> >
> > & tho some if not all the best sources say siberia
> > extends into kazakhstan a bit
> > all at least agree siberia includes all of russia west
> > of the urals & doesnt extend into mongolia or china at
> > all
> >
> > therefore i sought initially a maximum possible
> > siberian peninsular neck
> > by running a great circle arc directly from the
> > coastal indentation at vladivostok to a corresponding
> > indentation at the mouth of the nadym river in the
> > gulf of ob
> >
> > but such a maxi siberian peninsula as this
> > whatever else one might say for or against it
> > would cut off & include within itself a huge chunk of
> > manchuria
> > & that apparently cannot semantically be
> >
> > nor do i imagine such a manchurian lump can very well
> > exist any more than it can very well not exist on the
> > neck of a siberian peninsula
> >
> > both of which inconvenient facts together
> > in my mind at least
> > thus completely bust this maxi neck probability &
> > force me to fall back from vladivostok to the next
> > available indentation up the coast
> > which is at chumikan on the udskaya guba
> >
> > & a direct line from there to the mouth of the nadym
> > whatever else one might say for or against that
> > would at least have the virtue of cutting off a
> > greatest possible entirely siberian peninsula
> > even if not a very recognizably peninsular one
> >
> > for if the instant recognizability of the
> > peninsularity were to become an issue
> > it is possible such a true siberian peninsula might
> > thus contract farther still
> > with the neck terminals on both the arctic ocean & the
> > sea of okhotsk falling back eastward again
> > & by degrees perhaps all the way to the neck of
> > kamchatka
> > if necessary to satisfy such a requirement
> >
> > so clearly some consensus of the absent minded might
> > be desirable in this case
> > rather than everyone just taking my word for it
> >
> > but in any case the european peninsular neck isnt so
> > very noticeable itself on first glance either
> >
> > so it remains a question how much noticeability should
> > be required of any siberian peninsula candidate
> >
> > but if the largest semantically possible siberian
> > peninsula were allowed to face off against the already
> > identified & also largest semantically possible
> > european peninsula
> > then i think at this point that their comparative
> > territorial areas might be so nearly the same as to
> > necessitate a photo finish for the silver & bronze
> >
> > but in all other eventualities
> > it looks like europe gets silver & siberia bronze
> > but especially if the european crowd stays in the game
> >
> > --- aletheiak <aletheiak@y...> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> this peninsula professor at least
> >> http://www2.sjsu.edu/faculty/watkins/europegeog.htm
> >> acknowledges & even acclaims the european peninsula
> >> as the peninsula of peninsulas
> >> & correctly recognizes it as an appendage
> >> of what he takes to be the eurasian landmass
> >> even down to the narrow neck between the white &
> >> azov seas
> >> but he evidently hasnt yet noticed the african
> >> peninsular
> >> connection to this same landmass
> >> having perhaps confused it
> >> however inexplicably also
> >> with a brittanic peninsular connection to the
> >> european landmass
> >>
> >> &
> >> even any absent minded professorial opinion on the
> >> true extent
> >> of the siberian peninsula has been completely
> >> elusive thus far
> >>
> >> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "aletheiak"
> >> <aletheiak@y...> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > but in fact which is she
> >> > the 2nd or the 3rd
> >> >
> >> > clearly africa is the first
> >> >
> >> > but is siberia even a peninsula
> >> >
> >> > & if so then where would her neck be
> >> >
> >> > apparently she has nothing so pronounced as the
> >> european
> >> > peninsular neck between the northernmost sea of
> >> azov & the
> >> > southernmost white sea
> >> >
> >> > but is there any best available geographic truth
> >> that could
> >> finally
> >> > settle this question in afroeurasian peninsular
> >> olympics
> >> >
> >> > after gold for africa
> >> > is it silver or bronze
> >> > for europe & siberia
> >> >
> >> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "aletheiak"
> >> > <aletheiak@y...> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > hahahahaha
> >> > > hahahahaha
> >> > > bravo bravo
> >> > > transforming what was formerly only the second
> >> or third
> >> largest
> >> > > peninsula of afroeurasia into the true heart &
> >> central bank of
> >> > > benevolence
> >> > >
> >> > > standing ovations
> >> > >
> >> > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Wolfgang
> >> Schaub"
> >> > > <Wolfgang.Schaub@c...> wrote:
> >> > > > Kevin,
> >> > > > You are just underlining the point. Some may
> >> be part of
> >> > Europe
> >> > > politically
> >> > > > (Guadeloupe, Martinique), others culturally
> >> (Cyprus in a
> >> > way...),
> >> > > but not
> >> > > > geographically. How do we define "Europe"
> >> then? Maybe
> >> we
> >> > > should relabel the
> >> > > > EU as "Community of the Benevolents" and so
> >> get rid of the
> >> > > "Europe"
> >> > > > connotation.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Before Mike feels compelled to write something
> >> again, I
> >> may
> >> > > add his "hahaha"
> >> > > > already here.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Wolfgang
> >> > > > -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
> >> > > > Von: Kevin Meynell [mailto:knm@m...]
> >> > > > Gesendet: Samstag, 26. Februar 2005 21:39
> >> > > > An: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> >> > > > Betreff: Re: AW: [BoundaryPoint] eupen and
> >> malmedy
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > >As long as it calls itself European Union I
> >> would wish to
> >> > > know what
> >> > > > Europe is.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Errr.. what about Guadeloupe, Martinique, St
> >> Martin,
> >> Guiana
> >> > > and Reunion,
> >> > > > with possibly Bonaire, Sint Eustatius and
> >> Saba soon to be
> >> > > added? Even
> >> > > > Cyprus is arguably not a geographical part
> >> of Europe.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > You could also mention Greenland which was
> >> originally
> >> part
> >> > > of the European
> >> > > > Community.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Regards,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Kevin Meynell
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
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