Since you asked for opinions, I opine that a peninsula should at least appear to
protrude from a main body of land. Thus, my vote for the neck of the peninsula
in eastern Siberia is a line beginning at the mouth of the Uda River in the
Udskaya Guba at the northwest corner of the Sea of Okhotsk and running only a
little west of true north to the maximum indentation of the Guba Buor Khaya in
the Laptev Sea. I am viewing this on a National Geographic Society map of the
"Eastern Soviet Union." The same NGS map boldly labels this protrusion from
Asia with the regional name "Magadan." So, I propose that we call it the
Magadan Peninsula, and consider it something of a mirror to the neighboring
peninsula occupied largely by Alaska (although the name "Alaska Peninsula" is
given to the much smaller stub from which the Aleutian Islands trail).
Interestingly, a physical map reveals that this Magadan is physically divided
from the rest of Siberia by the Dzhugdzhur and Yerkhoyansk Ranges, which neatly
snake between the beginning and ending points proposed above for the neck line
of the peninsula. Magadan is part of the American tectonic plate, and the
mountains result where it grinds against the Eurasian plate.
Lowell G. McManus
Leesville, Louisiana, USA
----- Original Message -----
From: "aletheia kallos" <aletheiak@...>
To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 2:08 PM
Subject: europe v siberia was Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: eupen and malmedy
>
> since the best available opinion on the true extent of
> the siberian peninsula is still not yet available
> i have contented myself for the moment with getting
> the best available opinion on the true extent of
> siberia per se
> or greater siberia if you will
> thinking that with this data in hand i myself could
> then serve in the capacity of the absent minded
> professor interpolator of the true geographic extent
> of the true siberian peninsula within a greater best
> available siberia
> just as the peninsula professor has interpolated the
> true geographic extent of the european peninsula
> within a greater best available europe
>
> & it just so happens that the same best available
> opinion that says greater europe begins & ends at the
> ural mountains also says that greater siberia begins &
> ends at the ural mountains too
> hahahahaha
> so europe & siberia are actually not only neighbors &
> classmates but are actually squared off back to back
> in this duel for second place silver in our old world
> peninsular olympics
>
> & tho some if not all the best sources say siberia
> extends into kazakhstan a bit
> all at least agree siberia includes all of russia west
> of the urals & doesnt extend into mongolia or china at
> all
>
> therefore i sought initially a maximum possible
> siberian peninsular neck
> by running a great circle arc directly from the
> coastal indentation at vladivostok to a corresponding
> indentation at the mouth of the nadym river in the
> gulf of ob
>
> but such a maxi siberian peninsula as this
> whatever else one might say for or against it
> would cut off & include within itself a huge chunk of
> manchuria
> & that apparently cannot semantically be
>
> nor do i imagine such a manchurian lump can very well
> exist any more than it can very well not exist on the
> neck of a siberian peninsula
>
> both of which inconvenient facts together
> in my mind at least
> thus completely bust this maxi neck probability &
> force me to fall back from vladivostok to the next
> available indentation up the coast
> which is at chumikan on the udskaya guba
>
> & a direct line from there to the mouth of the nadym
> whatever else one might say for or against that
> would at least have the virtue of cutting off a
> greatest possible entirely siberian peninsula
> even if not a very recognizably peninsular one
>
> for if the instant recognizability of the
> peninsularity were to become an issue
> it is possible such a true siberian peninsula might
> thus contract farther still
> with the neck terminals on both the arctic ocean & the
> sea of okhotsk falling back eastward again
> & by degrees perhaps all the way to the neck of
> kamchatka
> if necessary to satisfy such a requirement
>
> so clearly some consensus of the absent minded might
> be desirable in this case
> rather than everyone just taking my word for it
>
> but in any case the european peninsular neck isnt so
> very noticeable itself on first glance either
>
> so it remains a question how much noticeability should
> be required of any siberian peninsula candidate
>
> but if the largest semantically possible siberian
> peninsula were allowed to face off against the already
> identified & also largest semantically possible
> european peninsula
> then i think at this point that their comparative
> territorial areas might be so nearly the same as to
> necessitate a photo finish for the silver & bronze
>
> but in all other eventualities
> it looks like europe gets silver & siberia bronze
> but especially if the european crowd stays in the game
>
> --- aletheiak <aletheiak@...> wrote:
>
>>
>> this peninsula professor at least
>> http://www2.sjsu.edu/faculty/watkins/europegeog.htm
>> acknowledges & even acclaims the european peninsula
>> as the peninsula of peninsulas
>> & correctly recognizes it as an appendage
>> of what he takes to be the eurasian landmass
>> even down to the narrow neck between the white &
>> azov seas
>> but he evidently hasnt yet noticed the african
>> peninsular
>> connection to this same landmass
>> having perhaps confused it
>> however inexplicably also
>> with a brittanic peninsular connection to the
>> european landmass
>>
>> &
>> even any absent minded professorial opinion on the
>> true extent
>> of the siberian peninsula has been completely
>> elusive thus far
>>
>> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "aletheiak"
>> <aletheiak@y...> wrote:
>> >
>> > but in fact which is she
>> > the 2nd or the 3rd
>> >
>> > clearly africa is the first
>> >
>> > but is siberia even a peninsula
>> >
>> > & if so then where would her neck be
>> >
>> > apparently she has nothing so pronounced as the
>> european
>> > peninsular neck between the northernmost sea of
>> azov & the
>> > southernmost white sea
>> >
>> > but is there any best available geographic truth
>> that could
>> finally
>> > settle this question in afroeurasian peninsular
>> olympics
>> >
>> > after gold for africa
>> > is it silver or bronze
>> > for europe & siberia
>> >
>> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "aletheiak"
>> > <aletheiak@y...> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > hahahahaha
>> > > hahahahaha
>> > > bravo bravo
>> > > transforming what was formerly only the second
>> or third
>> largest
>> > > peninsula of afroeurasia into the true heart &
>> central bank of
>> > > benevolence
>> > >
>> > > standing ovations
>> > >
>> > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Wolfgang
>> Schaub"
>> > > <Wolfgang.Schaub@c...> wrote:
>> > > > Kevin,
>> > > > You are just underlining the point. Some may
>> be part of
>> > Europe
>> > > politically
>> > > > (Guadeloupe, Martinique), others culturally
>> (Cyprus in a
>> > way...),
>> > > but not
>> > > > geographically. How do we define "Europe"
>> then? Maybe
>> we
>> > > should relabel the
>> > > > EU as "Community of the Benevolents" and so
>> get rid of the
>> > > "Europe"
>> > > > connotation.
>> > > >
>> > > > Before Mike feels compelled to write something
>> again, I
>> may
>> > > add his "hahaha"
>> > > > already here.
>> > > >
>> > > > Wolfgang
>> > > > -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
>> > > > Von: Kevin Meynell [mailto:knm@m...]
>> > > > Gesendet: Samstag, 26. Februar 2005 21:39
>> > > > An: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
>> > > > Betreff: Re: AW: [BoundaryPoint] eupen and
>> malmedy
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > >As long as it calls itself European Union I
>> would wish to
>> > > know what
>> > > > Europe is.
>> > > >
>> > > > Errr.. what about Guadeloupe, Martinique, St
>> Martin,
>> Guiana
>> > > and Reunion,
>> > > > with possibly Bonaire, Sint Eustatius and
>> Saba soon to be
>> > > added? Even
>> > > > Cyprus is arguably not a geographical part
>> of Europe.
>> > > >
>> > > > You could also mention Greenland which was
>> originally
>> part
>> > > of the European
>> > > > Community.
>> > > >
>> > > > Regards,
>> > > >
>> > > > Kevin Meynell
>> > > >
>> > > >
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