Subject: RE: [BoundaryPoint] Ireland-NI border pics
Date: Sep 12, 2004 @ 20:08
Author: John J. Kelly ("John J. Kelly" <johnkelly@...>)
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> None at all anywhere on that border. Apparently both sides are trying to
> reduce the significance of the border altogether in terms of everyday
> living, driving, and tourism. It's all done by county now, and it
> appears that the counties of the north are now simply treated as Irish
> counties generically all over the island.
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> I have many more pictures, but I'm trying to reduce their size so I can
> post them.
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> Dallen
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jesper Nielsen [mailto:jesniel@...]
> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 7:12 AM
> To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Ireland-NI border pics
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> So there were no blue EU signs at the borders.
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> Also no ordinary, non-EU signs announcing the countries?
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> Jesper
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: Dallen Timothy <mailto:dtimothy@...>
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> To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
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> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 7:35 PM
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> Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Ireland-NI border pics
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> Hi Folks,
>
> I've been hibernating for several months finishing up a couple
> of new books, but I've been reading the goings-on of BoundaryPoint. I
> was on business in Ireland last month, and of course I took the
> opportunity to do several border stops on the NI-Ireland border. Things
> have changed a lot on this border since the early 1990s. In fact at all
> eight places we crossed (on land and on river) there is no sign
> whatsoever that an international boundary is being crossed. Unlike other
> EU borders, there are no blue signs announcing which country one is
> entering, and there certainly are no border stations left (unlike
> between Finland and Sweden). After talking a lot with academics,
> politicians, and local people along the border I've realized that there
> is a lot of cooperation now going on between the north and south, and in
> fact the whole island is being promoted in tourism terms as a single
> destination. All of the South's brochures and Websites include the North
> and vice versa, and geographical lexicon the only divisions are now by
> county, not by country.
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> Now for the attached photos:
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> 1) Picture 009 is of the border just southwest of
> Londonderry. The 1:60,000 topographic map shows this as a dry border,
> but in fact it's a small stream under this old bridge. You can see the
> pavement change in the middle of the bridge and the new speed limit is
> in km, not miles. The speed signs are the only indication you are
> entering the Republic.
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> 2) Up the road about 300-400 meters you find this sign,
> welcoming you to County Donegal. All the major crossings are marked with
> welcome to County X signs, but no indication of Ireland or Northern
> Ireland.
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> I'll send more today and over the intervening days. Doug is
> helping me reduce their size-thanks Doug. Hopefully they won't plug up
> anyone's system.
>
> Cheers,
> Dallen
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