why right index finger and left eye (as opposed to
left finger right eye)?
And who was the Baltic sitter? I dont think it could
have been part of GBBE since 3 wet TPs, 1 with
soldiers and not sure of position, 1 very short
TPmarker (lat lith belarus).

--- aletheiak <aletheiak@...> wrote:

> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, Petter Brabec
> <pete2784west@y...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > aletheiak <aletheiak@y...> wrote:
> > > & of course there are also our supposedly
> objective
> > > classifications of the objective accuracy of our
> visits
> > >
> > > COULD YOU GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT DO YOU
> > EXACTLY MEAN HERE?
>
> not sure if this is the old query or a request for
> more specificity
>
> by supposedly objective here i mean the endeavor has
> been to
> isolate all possible or all major distinct qualities
> of visits & tries
> that everyone could recognize as their own
> & then to combine all these into the truest & most
> beautiful
> dartboard bullseye design conception possible
> such that everyone might appreciate the result
> enough to
> specially honor it
> whether as so much more folk art or as some
> objective creation
>
> but of course we are also aware that
> owing to the limitations of physical existence
> everyone sees objective truth to at least some
> extent subjectively
> & differently from everyone else
>
> so one can never be too gentle or tentative about
> objectivity
>
> & a bonus such extra care & sensitivity pays us
> is
> to be able to distinguish & appreciate better all
> the various
> subjectivities that may also enter into the
> discussion
>
> but it is all a function of consciously &
> deliberately seeking the
> truest available truth at every step of every try
>
> > > for how close one can get we have been using an
> abcde
> scale
> > >
> > > WHICH IS?
>
> ok
> now i realize these were both old queries
> but i am glad i blundered into adding the above
>
> > class a
> > means
> > you absolutely got it
> > & this is normally applied only to marked
> tripoints
> > where typically you could put your fingertip on
> the dimple or
> > crosshairs or apex that the monument itself uses
> to represent
> > the tripoint
> > or it could also be the precise pinnacle of an
> unmarked
> summit
> > tripoint
> >
> >
> > IS SITTING ON THE TOP OF THE MARKED CROSS OF THE
> TRIPOINT STONE, LIKE SAY ON THE ARNOLDSTEIN, THE
> ULTIMATE CLASS A ? MY GUESS IS, MAYBE NOT ENOUGH.
>
> hahahahaha
> the several known tricountry crosses may indeed
> present the
> greatest challenges in the world for true
> trypointers
>
> but the beau geste you invent & the body part you
> choose for
> attaining your multihood are entirely optional &
> personal
>
> i myself prefer using the heart or lips
> but the right index finger &or the left eyeball can
> be equally true
> especially in combination
> when scaling a particularly difficult or precarious
> monument
>
> however
> any skin or even clothed body part at all on the
> true point means
> the ne plus ultra of objective absoluteness has been
> attained
>
> beyond that lies personal artistry of course
> but you are already in the pupil & beam of the bulls
> eye
> & there is nowhere left to go
>
>
> i think one well known point sitter has already
> achieved a degree
> of penetration tho
> if that is what you were really wondering &
> supposing
> but it was by an obelisk apex
> somewhere in the baltics
>
> this has never been done on top of a cross so far as
> i know
> & probably shouldnt be undertaken until at least a
> modicum of
> levitation skills have been attained
>
> > class b
> > means
> > you have basically been there as best as could be
> > & this is normally applied only to unmarked points
> > where the range of possible precision does vary
> > but it presupposes the same maximum diligence as
> class a
> >
> >
> >
> > class c
> > means
> > you got close enough to actually see the tripoint
> > or else to clearly visualize the tripoint location
> >
> >
> > HERE YOU OBVIOUSLY MEAN WITH YOUR OWN EYES IN
> THE TERRAIN, RIGHT?
>
> yes
>
> of course we are always doing this here with our
> minds eyes too
> but these are virtual tries
> so we havent been counting them the same way
>
> > class d
> > means
> > you got a distant glimpse
> > & only a general sense of the location
> >
> > class e
> > means
> > you earnestly tried but your objective completely
> eluded you
> > & for whatever reason & at whatever distance
> > you never even saw the exact tripoint location
> >
> >
> > THESE WET TRIPOINTS COULD BE VISUALIZED BY USING
> LASERGADGETS. SAY THIS ATCHLTN TRIPOINT LOCATED ON
> RHEIN RIVER. GET YOUR LASERS READY, GET THREE GUYS
> IN THE POSITION BY THE WITNESSMARKERS ON THE
> RHEIN'S SHORES AND BEAM. THEN YOU�LL GET YOURSELF
> FAIRLY GOOD PICTURE OF WHERE EXACTEMENT THIS
> TRIPOINT IS LOCATED. THEN, WHILE BEAMING, EVERYONE
> CAN GET INTO THEIR CANOE AND PADDLE STRAIGHT AT THE
> INTERSECTION OF BEAMS! PERHAPS THEN YOU CAN SAY, "I
> REACHED THE WET TRIPOINT", OR WILL IT STILL BE A
> CLASS
> "AS CLOSE AS YOU COULD GET"?
>
> excellent ideas
>
> to visit atchlin class b
> which is the best possible visit for that point
> it will require at least 1 sighter or laserer & at
> least 1 tryer
>
> the advantage of the laser beam is that the tryer
> will be able to
> know at all times where the sight line is in
> relation to himself
>
> without the laser he would have to be taking visual
> &or verbal
> cues from the sighter
>
> but in streams of water the best possible visit is
> usually
> performed on the drift rather than holding steady
> anyway
> & necessarily only lasts an instant
>
> of course it is better if the tryer is conscious in
> & of that instant
> but that could be too much to hope for in many cases
>
> if the river is too deep or swift to just walk out
> to the deepest part
> then it is the intersection of the sight line or
> laser beam & the line
> of strongest current that you will be looking for
> here
>
> this should be fairly perceptible in a canoe too
>
> in any case
> the visual aspect of the thalweg is often a narrow
> band of flatter
> blacker water sometimes with an intermittent
> hairline slithering
> down its midst
>
> & where your laser crosses that slither is where you
> want to be
>
> > e monument
> > so some people have an especially hard time with
> this one
> >
> >
> > of course there have been many other proposed
> systems
> > & many other proposed classes to add onto this
> system
> > including some great parodies all the way down to
> class zzz
> > as in only dreaming you tried
> >
> >
> > ONE CLASS COULD BE TO FIND THE PICTURE OF THE
> TRIPOINT IN THE INTERNET!!!!
>
> right
> & we have been doing a lot of this too
> & sometimes classifying the photos as if they were
> our visits
>
> if there is someone in the pic at the tripoint
> then that photo is class a
> etc
>
> but clearly this is no substitute for the real
> article
>
>
>
>

__________________________________
Do you Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we.
http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail