Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] world class border arc census was Re: real bjneng try afoot<br/>
Date: Jul 17, 2004 @ 02:26<br/>
Author: Lowell G. McManus (&quot;Lowell G. McManus&quot; &lt;mcmanus71496@...&gt;)<br/>
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<div id="ygrps-yiv-1737645160">Summarized from BUS&SS:<br/>
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After several less than clear colonial grants, the two colonies found themselves<br/>
at odds over their two boundaries (Maine then being part of Massachusetts).<br/>
Finally, New Hampshire appealed to the King [George II].  The King ordered<br/>
commissioners appointed from several neighboring colonies.  They met at Hampton<br/>
in 1737 and submitted a report.  In 1740, the King decreed by orders in council:<br/>
<br/>
&quot;...a similar line pursuing the course of the Merrimack river, at three miles<br/>
distance, on the north side thereof, beginning at the Atlantic Ocean, and ending<br/>
at a point due north of Pautucket falls, and a straight line drawn from thence,<br/>
due west...&quot;<br/>
<br/>
The King sent the decree to Governor Belcher (who governed both colonies) with<br/>
instructions to ask both assemblies to mark the boundary jointly, and if either<br/>
wouldn&#39;t, the other could.  Massachusetts didn&#39;t.  New Hampshire did.  Two<br/>
surveyors were appointed.  In 1741, George Mitchell did the three-mile river<br/>
line, and Richard Hazzen did the westward line.  The reports of the surveyors<br/>
have been lost, but their marks survived.<br/>
<br/>
The two states appointed commissioners to run and mark the line again in 1825.<br/>
They recovered the original line.  Monuments were erected in 1827.  An 1885<br/>
joint commission was empowered to re-run and re-mark the three-mile river line.<br/>
They did so, &quot;changing it only to a trifling extent.&quot;<br/>
<br/>
As for the off-shore extent of the town boundaries, it all depends on what the<br/>
respective state laws say.<br/>
<br/>
Lowell G. McManus<br/>
Leesville, Louisiana, USA<br/>
<br/>
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<blockquote><span title="qreply"> ----- Original Message ----- <br/>
From: &quot;Michael Kaufman&quot; &lt;<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:mikekaufman79@...">mikekaufman79@...</a>&gt;<br/>
To: &lt;<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com">BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com</a>&gt;<br/>
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 5:38 PM<br/>
Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] world class border arc census was Re: real bjneng<br/>
try afoot<br/>
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&gt; About MA-NH - I was wondering if it was originally<br/>
&gt; monumented or if it were specified as 3 miles from the<br/>
&gt; thalweg or north (or south) bank or median line.  If<br/>
&gt; this were true, it would be a living, moving boundary<br/>
&gt; on land.  Any line between two towns in one state<br/>
&gt; defined as ending at the state line would thus produce<br/>
&gt; moving tripoints.<br/>
&gt; And about length of town lines out to sea: I am<br/>
&gt; curious to know when I am on the beach if there might<br/>
&gt; be tripoints townA-townB-state right there.  The<br/>
&gt; depicted Salisbury-Newburyport line seems to go past<br/>
&gt; the tp with MA into wholly MA state territory for a<br/>
&gt; while.  Across a state line, there would be a<br/>
&gt; quadripoint where the state line reaches the low tide<br/>
&gt; mark.  So at the low tide line you would have<br/>
&gt; MA-NH-Salisbury-Seabrook. </span></blockquote></div>