Subject: Re: Boundary quote
Date: Jul 16, 2004 @ 18:23
Author: aletheiak ("aletheiak" <aletheiak@...>)
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--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G. McManus"
<mcmanus71496@m...> wrote:
> See! It does relate to what we do here. :-)

aha

but only because

we

actually

do

do

it


only because we actually recognize & gather round & celebrate &
enshrine & quest after & dance about these multipoints




for we are the ones who sacralize them
& ourselves
amidst what is otherwise a wasteland of geopolitical profanity
in the terms of eliade


all the ordinary geopolitical boundaries & points & space in general
& all of what is called normal reality
again in his terms
is only the profane

& to invoke all this in the name of his sacred
is to misrepresent his profane as if it were his sacred

his thesis is
these 2 things
the sacred & the profane
are polar opposites & anything but equal

& what he says of one is not equally applicable to the other

so at this he must be not merely turning in his grave
but spinning like a tin weathercock

> My professor would have agreed with you fully. That's precisely
why he
> interjected the Eliade quote into a study of boundaries in the
first place!
>
> Lowell G. McManus
> Leesville, Louisiana, USA
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "aletheiak" <aletheiak@y...>
> To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 12:03 PM
> Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Boundary quote
>
>
> > or just check out a synopsis for starters
> > http://www.csun.edu/~rcummings/sacred.html
> > great stuff for anyone wondering what we might really be
effecting
> > allowing constituting & revealing here at bp
> > in our quest for certain very specially qualified fixed points
> > & some pretty broad hints about why this unique & otherwise
> > inexplicable activity of ours can be so meaningful exhilarating &
> > fulfilling
> >
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "aletheiak"
<aletheiak@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G. McManus"
> > > <mcmanus71496@m...> wrote:
> > > > Mike,
> > > >
> > > > I knew that the quote was from THE SACRED AND THE PROFANE.
So
> > did
> > > my professor,
> > > > who (for his expertise in the resolution of boundary issues)
was
> > > the first
> > > > geographer ever appointed to the American Academy of Forensic
> > > Science.
> > >
> > > wow lowell i am really glad for you both &
> > >
> > > > For one who can go on for dozens of lines about the
> > > multidimensionality of
> > > > punctiliousness transcending reality (or some such), I
thought
> > that
> > > you might
> > > > have enjoyed this quote. I'm sorry if I misjudged. :-)
> > >
> > > no need to be sorry
> > >
> > > nor silly about any such
> > >
> > > for of course i enjoyed it
> > >
> > > as i do all your ridiculous pronouncements
> > >
> > > but it is the multipointing alone that effects the break in
> > > geopolitical space
> > > & indeed sacralizes its profanity
> > > by honoring
> > > not a restrictive sovereignty
> > > but the multiple sovereignty that exists only at certain points
> > >
> > > & by simultaneously honoring the equal divinity of the pointer
> > seeker
> > >
> > > all in one
> > > all at once
> > >
> > > & thus transcending even multidimensionality
> > > by celebrating totality
> > >
> > > & of course i am glad your professor & you have given us the
> > > opportunity to see this & point it out
> > > by your hilarious misrepresentation of eliade
> > >
> > > but please
> > > really read the book
> > > before continuing to run on about its value to us
> > >
> > > it is of potentially enormous value to us
> > >
> > > > What it says about sacred space is equally applicable to the
> > > physical space of
> > > > the state. Therefore, it has some value for those here who
> > might
> > > not have
> > > > already known it as well as you do.
> > > >
> > > > Lowell G. McManus
> > > > Leesville, Louisiana, USA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "aletheiak" <aletheiak@y...>
> > > > To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 8:43 AM
> > > > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Boundary quote
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > hey i read that book too
> > > > > & must say your teachers are looking like the most ignorant
> > > > > people in their society again
> > > > >
> > > > > for their & your quote here is not about geopolitical
> > boundaries
> > > at
> > > > > all
> > > > > but about sacred space
> > > > > or in other words
> > > > > quite the opposite
> > > > >
> > > > > for the fuller context
> > > > > please see the 3rd paragraph from the bottom here
> > > > > http://www.ku24.com/~darrell/mnem-arch1.html
> > > > > or better yet
> > > > > i would mightily recommend the entire book
> > > > >
> > > > > the sacred & the profane
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G. McManus"
> > > > > <mcmanus71496@m...> wrote:
> > > > > > In my political geography professor's class syllabus from
> > > > > 1977, I find this
> > > > > > quote about boundaries and points:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "For it is the break effected in space that allows the
world
> > to
> > > be
> > > > > constituted,
> > > > > > because it reveals the fixed point, the central axis for
all
> > > future
> > > > > > orientation."--Mircea Eliade
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lowell G. McManus
> > > > > > Leesville, Louisiana, USA
> > > > >
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> > > > >
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