Subject: Re: Manila Asks Hanoi to Explain Spratly Joyride
Date: Apr 22, 2004 @ 18:37
Author: acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
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henry
welcome back
& yikes
does this mean you are already out of africa
as eagerly anticipated in messages 13195 & 13449

some comments inserted below too

--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Henry Hirose"
<silentcity@h...> wrote:
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "acroorca2002"
<orc@o...> wrote:
> > the paracel islands too are claimed by 3 countries
> > namely cntwvn
> > but are occupied only by china
>
> There is also the Pratas (Dongsha) Islands which are much
closer to
> the Chinese mainland which are occupied by Taiwan.

true
& in terms of rarity
i imagine wet borders that dont enjoy disputed islands might be
even scarcer & more remarkable than disputed islands are
themselves

> There was a report from 2000 which stated that the city of
Kaohsiung,
> under which jurisdiction Dongsha falls, was to start tourist
cruises
> to the islands. But I cannot find any more coverage of the
issue.
>
> The below link is for this article, in Japanese:
>
> http://www.roc-taiwan.or.jp/news/week/1949/115.html
>
> > &
> > since china & taiwan & vietnam all likewise claim all the
spratlys
> > http://cat.middlebury.edu/southchinasea/macand/
> > it would appear that the perhaps 8 spratlys that are also
claimed
> > by the philippines
> > & the perhaps 4 other spratlys that are also claimed by
malaysia
> > comprise all together the dozen most claimed territories in
the
> > world
> > being evidently all tied at 4 claimants each
> > whether cnphtwvn or cnmytwvn
>
> I believe that Brunei also claims the Spratlys which does make
it the
> most contested lands on earth.

the odd thing about the bruneian claim is that it is explicitly only
for the eez & not actually for any of the islands within this area

however it is not at all clear if the bruneian claim area even
contains any islands
properly so called
as distinct from drying reefs
such as louisa reef
as theia also just reported

but i agree with her that the obelisk at least must be bncnmytwvn
& if it was my joyride thats where i would be heading first now

> As for islands that are claimed by three countries, there are the
> offshore islands of the Antarctic Peninsula. These are
included in
> the Antarctic territories of Britain, Chile, and Argentina. The
> caveat is that due to the Antarctic Treaty, all territorial claims to
> lands south of the 60 parallel are held in abeyance, thus not
> exercised.
>
> Henry Hirose