Yes, this BYPL shoe incident was indeed what I was
alluding to with the 4th message (13893) in the of the
4's thread. I was going to make a try for 16:04:04,
but my computer loses time and when I clicked on the
sychronize button on the atomic clock sync utility I
have, I found it skipped ahead to already past
16:04:04. But an unintended added bonus I now see is
the time of message 13893 is 5:04 P.M. This is after
Yahoo! adjusted for Daylight Savings Time (which it
had not yet done in the original 13886). But we know
that much of Indiana which is in the Eastern Time Zone
does not use Daylight Time. So, still in the Eastern
Time Zone (albeit EST, not EDT) 13893 made a good try
at 04:04:04 PM, EST for parts of Indiana.
I like Jack's mention of the "Fourgone conclusion." :)
And gmane seems to be working fine. I recently used
this to see Jesper's vacation photos.
--- acroorca2002 <
orc@...> wrote:
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, Doug Murray
> <doug@d...> wrote:
> >
> > My appearance on CBC Radio was no more than me
> recalling
> the incident
> > when we ventured from Poland into Belarus without
> permission.
>
> well it may only have been one small step for us
> beepers
>
> but it was still a giant step for everyones land
>
> let me explain below
>
> > The incident in question:
> >
> > We arrived at the BYPL boundary and began
> exploring. I can't
> recall
> > the nearest town, and I am not able to check the
> map.
> >
> > However the 2 lane road was blocked... and on the
> Polish side
> was a
> > sandstrip that crossed the entire roadway. It was
> probably 2
> metres
> > across.
> >
> > Further up, there was the a change in pavement --
> the border --
> and a
> > white line across the road that marked the
> boundary. BY and
> PL markers
> > faced each other.
> >
> > The road continued as far as the eye could see
> into BY.
> Somewhere in
> > the distance there was a BY checkpoint, but we
> could not see
> it.
> >
> > On the PL side, there were some buildings,
> including one that
> looked
> > like an old office for border officials.
> >
> > The GBBE group wandered around, and we accidently
> trod in
> the sand
> > strip. Shortly thereafter, a Polish border guard
> came racing up
> the
> > road. Apparently someone (a local farmer?) called
> to report
> us.
> >
> > He was awfully unhappy -- and it fell to Ann to
> use her Polish
> skills
> > to explain what we were up to. They spent several
> long
> minutes in the
> > guard's jeep -- discussing the matter.
> >
> > At one point, we were asked through Ann, if we had
> entered
> Belarus
> > and/or trod in the sand. Initially we said no,
> but when pressed
> -- and
> > threatened with matching our shoes to the
> footprints in the
> sandstrip
> > -- we admitted that we may have accidentally
> wandered across
> the border.
> >
> > When he asked how many of us accidentally entered
> BY -- we
> all nodded
> > that we had.
>
> hahahahaha
> wasnt this a scene from snow white & the 7 dwarves
> hahahahaha
>
> > This began more discussions between the guard and
> Ann. He
> also spoke
> > many time to his superiors on the radio.
> >
> > Eventually, he realized we meant no harm. We all
> apologized
> profusely
> > to both the guard, the people of Poland, the
> people of Belarus,
> and
> > most importantly, to Ann.
> >
> > The incident ended with laugher and goodwill...
> and a
> reminder that
> > while exploring borders is fun, they are also
> places of territorial
> > integrity -- and must not be treated lightly.
> >
> > This lesson stayed with us for at least 30
> minutes.
>
> no wonder
> since the laughter & goodwill were of course the
> whole point
> & your very reasons for going there to bypl as well
> as to the radio
>
> & the integrity of borders is of course a vain
> illusion
> which should indeed be forgotten in 30 minutes or
> less
> as you correctly did
>
> &
> t h a t
> is what the world heard from your lips last night
>
> the world heard
> this really is all just everyones land
> & we can not only all get along but actually live
> happily ever after
>
>
> & thanx also to this from you tonite
> i finally do get the clang of mikes ringer in
> message 13893
> hahahahahaha
> which i heartily recommend to anyone who hasnt made
> the
> connection yet
> hahahaha
> too much
>
> & finally i would like to second aletheias
> suggestion to anyone
> who still has any email difficulties whatsoever
>
> just replace your email regime by bookmarking or
> homepaging
> the bp home page & resorting to gmane for
> attachments
> whenever necessary
> since everything is now working great
> even with a huge load of goodies such as these
>
> bravissimos all
>
> i am humbly proud to be a part of this enormous &
> truly
> preposterous organization
>
> er i mean this sandcastle pipe dream
>
> >
> > Pictures follow...
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Doug
> >
> > BELOW: Looking into Belarus... Polish barricade.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > BELOW: Polish sandstrip with someone's
> footprints.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > BELOW: Line across road -- like Hagen Koch's
> DDR-BDR line
> near Cafe
> > Adler in Berlin!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > BELOW: Looking at the Polish marker (no idea how
> the
> photographer got
> > this shot. Mirrors, I think!)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > BELOW: Another shot of the road & posts.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Below: Inside one of the abandoned (?) buildings
> nearby.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Monday, April 5, 2004, at 04:22 PM,
> acroorca2002 wrote:
> >
> > > ahh pete
> > > i just got to a computer where i could finally
> read this doc
> > >
> > > beauuuuutiful
> > >
> > > & your 40404 must be the missing 4th horseshoe
> ringer too
> > >
> > > also
> > > i missed dougs radio interview about the polish
> border guard
> at
> > > bypl
> > > or at least thats what i think mike was talking
> about in his 4th
> > > shoe drop
> > >
> > > so can you or anyone fill this blank in for
> those few of us who
> > > were neither on the geebe nor on the radio last
> night
> > >
> > > or am i missing another point as well
> > >
> > > & finally
> > > dont count me in yet for the cebt but dont count
> me out yet
> either
> > >
> > > & ps
> > > good thinking to make & keep the cebt expedition
> a veritable
> > > t r i p
> > > as well as an expedition
> > >
> > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, Peter
> Hering
> > > <hering@m...> wrote:
> > > > To all BP members:
> > > >
> > > > this is a notification that a new file has
> been added to the
> > > > file section of BP:
> > > >
> > > > The "CEBT" (Central European Border Trip) will
> take place
> in
> > > > week 33, from SUND August 8 to SUND August 15
> = 8
> days/7
> > > nights.
> > > >
> > > > Start/finish Copenhagen/DK.
> > > >
> > > > Should you be interested in participating, pls
> let me know
> > > asap!!
> > > > Deadline April 15. - On this day the final
> confirmation about
> > > > car/van rental has to be made.
> > > >
> > > > * GBBE, GEEBE and GCEBE participants have
> first priority.
> > > >
> > > > have some nice Easter holidays, all of you!!
> > > >
> > > > Peter Hering
> > > >
> > > > de bedste hilsener
> > > > best regards
> > > > mit freundlichen Gr�ssen
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > <image.tiff>
> > >
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