I just posted in the photos library three photos - two of the map of
the Vatican from the Lateran Treaty - showing the triangular
discrepancy between the Vatican and the Italian versions of the map
drawn for attachment to the treaty copies at the right of the
collonades, and another of the actual border marked leaving the outer
pillars and the steps in Italy. With regard to the German plot and
the area west of the collonades, both versions of the Lateran maps
agree that the area was Italian, but later obviously came to the
Vatican as extraterritorial ground only, on which it built. It seems
to me now, based on what I read in the treaty and these maps, etc., is
that the German cemetary is German extraterritorial enclave inside the
Vatican extraterritorial appendage to the Vatican proper. It's only a
matter of plotting where in this corner these buildings actually sit -
they may overlap over the extraterritorial part of the Vatican and
Italy proper. It's analogous to the U.S. Army bases in western
central W. Germany (closed in 1988 time frame) that were inside
Belgian bases in Germany that Belgium moved into during the occupation
of conquered Germany after WW II (and remained in after 1955 return of
sovereignty to Germany).
Regards
Len
Regards
Len
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BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G. McManus"
<mcmanus71496@m...> wrote:
> Whoa! Have they changed the boundary???
>
> I have the 1981 National Geographic Atlas of the World that has
almost the same
> map as the 1996 version that you have on your site as vatica.gif.
On my map,
> the boundary cuts through the left end of the Audience Hall and
leaves both the
> Teutonic College (the L-shaped building between the Audience Hall
and the
> Basilica) and the Palace of Holy Office in Italy.
>
> I've heard it said that when the Pope holds audiences in the
Audience Hall, he's
> in the Vatican City, while his audience is in Italy.
>
> Lowell G. McManus
> Leesville, Louisiana, USA
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "L. A. Nadybal" <lnadybal@c...>
> To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:09 PM
> Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: vatican tidbit
>
>
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "raedwulf16" <raedwulf16@y...>
> > wrote:
> > Also can anyone provide me
> > > with a list of the properties outside of the Vatican proper
> > > which "enjoy" extra territorial rights from Italy as properties of
> > > the Vatican? I can find numerous references to them ,but have as of
> > > yet failed to find a "list".thanks
> >
> > For a map and names (except for the transmitting station which is
> > missing) and the separate pieces at Castelgondolfo, there are 31
> > pieces in Rome within 5 miles of the Vatican "mainland". I posted
> > what I had from a 1931 edition of Geographical Journal at
> >
>
http://exclave.info/current/religiousstates/vatican/vaticanexclaves/vaticanexclaves.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
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