Subject: Gwadur / Gwadar / Gawadur - an Joachim - Postal Records
Date: Apr 03, 2004 @ 03:35
Author: L. A. Nadybal ("L. A. Nadybal" <lnadybal@...>)
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I'd appreciate knowing more about the postal arrangements, if you
could research that - for instance:

a. what currency was used in Gwadur and what in Pakistan?
b. What country's stamps were sold at the Pak PO outside the country?
c. What currency/ies was/were accepted for the stamps?
d. Did an Omani post office operate there, also at the same time?
e. What treaty provided for the foreign office in Gwadur to
continue under a "new country's" management after British Indian
officials left?

Thanks
Len Nadybal





>
> I did not find the time to read the archive sources on the postal
> services provided by Pakistan in Gwadur before 1958. In any case, the
> postal agency did not have any extraterritorial status. It was just a
> convenient arrangement for both sides, and I can try to dig up the
> documents.
>
> If anyone looks for more info on the transfer of Gwadur from Muscat to
> Pakistan, there are two lengthy chapters in the following books:
>
> Miriam Joyce, "The Sultanate of Oman: a twentieth century history"
> (Westport, Conn.: Praeger, 1995), chapter "Relinquishing Gawadur" on
> pp. 65-82; and
>
> R.W. Bailey (ed.), "Records of Oman", (Archive Eds., 1988 and 1992),
> chapter "Relations with Pakistan: Gwadur" in Vol. 10 on pp. 599-752.
>
> Joachim Duester
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G. McManus"
> <mcmanus71496@m...> wrote:
> > What I posted came from http://www.dawn.com/2001/01/22/ebr5.htm ,
> > a feature on Gwadur in DAWN, the leading English-language
> > newspaper in Pakistan. Different interest groups probably
> > have different views or spins on the events of 1958.
> > Still, the place came to be Pakistani after a sale by
> > the Sultan of Muscat in that year.
> >
> > Lowell G. McManus
> > Leesville, Louisiana, USA
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Joachim Duester" <jduester@p...>
> > To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 8:35 AM
> > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: New Subject - Gwadur
> >
> >
> > > Well, we are talking here about
> > > http://www.home.pages.at/maxifant/Frames/gwadar.htm
> > > - Gwadar, Gwadur, Guadar - it's all the same actually in different
> > > tranliteration.
> > >
> > > To claim that Sultan Said "offered" it "for sale" is ludicrous, as
> > > well as the claim that there were offers from the UK, Iran and the
> > > USSR. The story of Gwadar is well covered in some recently published
> > > sources, though little is found about it in the Internet. Muscat
> > > reliquished sovereignty over Gwadar in 1958, after many years of
> > > Pakistani efforts to obtain that piece of territory. Sultan Said
> > > always refused to negotiate directly with Pakistan, and
authority was
> > > not handed over to Pakistan, but under an arrangement made with the
> > > BRITISH (not Pakistani) government, he withdrew his administrators
> > > from Gwadar in September 1958 and Pakistani officials arrived hours
> > > later to take over. The refusal to negotiate with Pakistan and the
> > > absence of a formal handover to Pakistan seem to indicate that
he did
> > > not accept the loss of Gwadar, and that he wanted to show that
he only
> > > yielded to British pressure. On the other hand, he was very
precise as
> > > to the amounts of money to be paid to him through the British
> > > government and how and where they were to be deposited. If I
remember
> > > correctly, it was the equivalent of 3 million pound sterling,
paretly
> > > to be paid in US dollars. Also in 1958, Sultan Said insisted
that the
> > > agreement of 1891 entered into by his grandfather Sultan Faisal with
> > > Britain "never to cede, sell or mortgage" any part of his
territory to
> > > a foreign power should be abolished (and it was abolished by an
> > > agreement in the form of an exchange of letters). He probably argued
> > > that he was now asked to cede Muscat territory - i.e. Gwadar - to a
> > > foreign nation, exactly what the British had requested Muscat NOT to
> > > do in 1891 ...
> > >
> > > Joachim Duester