Subject: Gwadur / Gwadar / Gawadur - an Joachim - Postal Records
Date: Apr 03, 2004 @ 03:35
Author: L. A. Nadybal ("L. A. Nadybal" <lnadybal@...>)
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> I did not find the time to read the archive sources on the postal
> services provided by Pakistan in Gwadur before 1958. In any case, the
> postal agency did not have any extraterritorial status. It was just a
> convenient arrangement for both sides, and I can try to dig up the
> documents.
>
> If anyone looks for more info on the transfer of Gwadur from Muscat to
> Pakistan, there are two lengthy chapters in the following books:
>
> Miriam Joyce, "The Sultanate of Oman: a twentieth century history"
> (Westport, Conn.: Praeger, 1995), chapter "Relinquishing Gawadur" on
> pp. 65-82; and
>
> R.W. Bailey (ed.), "Records of Oman", (Archive Eds., 1988 and 1992),
> chapter "Relations with Pakistan: Gwadur" in Vol. 10 on pp. 599-752.
>
> Joachim Duester
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G. McManus"
> <mcmanus71496@m...> wrote:
> > What I posted came from http://www.dawn.com/2001/01/22/ebr5.htm ,
> > a feature on Gwadur in DAWN, the leading English-language
> > newspaper in Pakistan. Different interest groups probably
> > have different views or spins on the events of 1958.
> > Still, the place came to be Pakistani after a sale by
> > the Sultan of Muscat in that year.
> >
> > Lowell G. McManus
> > Leesville, Louisiana, USA
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Joachim Duester" <jduester@p...>
> > To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 8:35 AM
> > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: New Subject - Gwadur
> >
> >
> > > Well, we are talking here about
> > > http://www.home.pages.at/maxifant/Frames/gwadar.htm
> > > - Gwadar, Gwadur, Guadar - it's all the same actually in different
> > > tranliteration.
> > >
> > > To claim that Sultan Said "offered" it "for sale" is ludicrous, as
> > > well as the claim that there were offers from the UK, Iran and the
> > > USSR. The story of Gwadar is well covered in some recently published
> > > sources, though little is found about it in the Internet. Muscat
> > > reliquished sovereignty over Gwadar in 1958, after many years of
> > > Pakistani efforts to obtain that piece of territory. Sultan Said
> > > always refused to negotiate directly with Pakistan, and
> > > not handed over to Pakistan, but under an arrangement made with thehe did
> > > BRITISH (not Pakistani) government, he withdrew his administrators
> > > from Gwadar in September 1958 and Pakistani officials arrived hours
> > > later to take over. The refusal to negotiate with Pakistan and the
> > > absence of a formal handover to Pakistan seem to indicate that
> > > not accept the loss of Gwadar, and that he wanted to show thathe only
> > > yielded to British pressure. On the other hand, he was veryprecise as
> > > to the amounts of money to be paid to him through the Britishremember
> > > government and how and where they were to be deposited. If I
> > > correctly, it was the equivalent of 3 million pound sterling,paretly
> > > to be paid in US dollars. Also in 1958, Sultan Said insistedthat the
> > > agreement of 1891 entered into by his grandfather Sultan Faisal withterritory to
> > > Britain "never to cede, sell or mortgage" any part of his
> > > a foreign power should be abolished (and it was abolished by an
> > > agreement in the form of an exchange of letters). He probably argued
> > > that he was now asked to cede Muscat territory - i.e. Gwadar - to a
> > > foreign nation, exactly what the British had requested Muscat NOT to
> > > do in 1891 ...
> > >
> > > Joachim Duester