Subject: Re: Czech stones of all kinds
Date: Apr 03, 2004 @ 03:20
Author: Michael Kaufman ("Michael Kaufman" <mikekaufman79@...>)
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Why this message came through
Times two
I have no clue
Very strange from Yahoo!

--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Kaufman"
<mikekaufman79@y...> wrote:
> Yes, except of course CS on the atcsde stone. Unless someone tried
> to get rid of the S for a short period of time until the new marker
> was erected. (If the text says the photo was taken in 1992, then
it
> was just before the point changed from old CS to CZ.)
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, Petter Brabec
> <pete2784west@y...> wrote:
> > Well, you are making some interesting statements. Some of them
need
> more elucidation, some of them need correction.
> >
> > Czechoslovakia, as a independent state did indeed get their
border
> settled first after the St. Germain peace aggreement (1919) with
just
> about every neighboring state. Their have been some some
territorial
> changes done by plebiscite into 1921.
> > Most of the borderstones, set up on the frontier between
> Czechoslovakia and their neighbors, have their origin in the period
> 1920-1922. These can be seen today, when taking a stroll on the
very
> border (from borderstone to borderstone). Prior to 1920 or 1918,
that
> is when "the kingdom of the Czech lands" still existed, the border
of
> the respective lands has not been marked by borderstones in any
> definite standardized manner. There were, though, set up
borderstones
> on important locations, say by the main roads, tops of the
mountains,
> rivers, tripoints. Since the Austrian Empire has been a federation-
> like state, the countries that made the Austrian Empire had their
> borderstones between themselves.
> > In 1920, Czechoslovakia had a "worm"-like shape, so the
> borderstones set up then stretched far, all the way to the CS-PL-RO
> tripoint (in existence between 1919-1939). Today, this point is
> located on the ukrainian-romanian border. These stones still exist
in
> their original position, they are just not painted anymore.
> > On these stones, on the Czechoslovakian side are the letters CS.
C
> stands for Czech, S stands for Slovakia. Not, Socialistic as you
> assumed.
> > When it comes to ATDECZ tripoint picture: the guy is sitting on
the
> top, his left leg is in Austria by the letter "Ö", his right leg is
> in Bavaria (Germany) indicated by the letter "B", and his buttocks
> are in the Czech republic indicated by the letter "C", but not seen
> on the picture. The photograph is definitely taken from south.
> >
> > Petter
> >
> > udomet@g... wrote:
> >
> > > http://platon.cbvk.cz/kniha/priloha/sonnl.php
> >
> > > On stone are visible letters "ö" - österreich - Austria
> > > "B" - Bohemia - Czech
> >
> >
> > I visited 2001-2003 often the border CZ-D (Bavaria and
Saxony)
> and made
> > many pics and films.
> >
> > First since 1920 CZ and Ö to set borderstones in agreement
> with state
> > treaty of St.-Germain-en-Laye
> > (to WW I). To 1918 was Bohemia a part of austrian empire
> without
> > borderstones.
> > "B" is alwas the shortening of all borderstones for
> Bavaria/Bayern
> > along border CZ/D and A/D.
> >
> > Shortening for Czech was C or CR to 1948 (Ceska Republika)
> >
> > CS off
> 1948
> > (Ceskoslovenska Socialisticka Republica)
> >
> > and now again C
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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