Apparently, Kahlenberg does have a Polish name: Łysa Wyspa (German
name: Bald mountain; Polish name: Bald island). It is mentioned at
http://eucc.szc.pl/podgrodzie/main.html ; it is 8 ha big and
completely overgrown with reed.
Still no mention of a breakwater or something similar.
Peter S.
--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Smaardijk"
<smaardijk@y...> wrote:
> Yes, that could be true. But I still think that there is more
chance
> of there being no breakwater. See the site from which the map was
> taken: http://tinyurl.com/2pzq7 . Note that the harbour approach
via
> the navigation channel is from the north.
>
> I find it very strange that I can't find any reference on the
> internet on the building of a breakwater across the border. I can't
> find anything on the island, too, apart from the name "Kahleberg"
on
> this map and a reference to "Kahlenberg" in a Polish text on the
> course of the DEPL boundary (Google cache of
> http://szczecin.slonca.net/teksty/granica.html ). Strange that this
> island doesn't seem to have a Polish name, being Polish. The other
> island in the Neuwarper See/Jezioro Nowowarpieñskie, the Riether
> Werder, does have a Polish name according to this text (Ostrów),
> although it is German. The old name of the island is Wozstra
> according to the website http://www.villa-
> rieth.de/html/gemeinde.html . This is clearly a Slavic name
> meaning "island" (cf. the Russian "ostrov"). The course of the
> boundary around this island is rather peculiar according to a
German
> map I have here: it looks like the boundary is following part of
the
> eastern shore of the island (where the straight boundary in the
> Neuwarper See is interrupted by the island). But my map is not very
> detailed so that could be wrong.
>
> Peter S.
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G. McManus"
> <mcmanus71496@m...> wrote:
> > Peter,
> >
> > Perhaps the breakwater is newer than the map and your photo.
> Clearly, the map
> > was made since the reunification of Germany, but the breakwater
> could be even
> > newer. It is in a position to protect the small harbor, and you
> can see in the
> > photo how shallow the water is. Since the German map shows the
> island in
> > Poland, any breakwater would cross the boundary and might have a
> monument on it!
> >
> > Lowell G. McManus
> > Leesville, Louisiana, USA
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@y...>
> > To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 1:55 PM
> > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: plde border near Nowe Warpno/Altwarp
> >
> >
> > > And a picture of that harbour: http://tinyurl.com/3cayk
> > > Peter S.
> > >
> > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Smaardijk"
> > > <smaardijk@y...> wrote:
> > > > Looks like an error. See http://tinyurl.com/2qm2q (Altwarp
> Harbour).
> > > > Peter S.
> > > >
> > > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G. McManus"
> > > > <mcmanus71496@m...> wrote:
> > > > > If you click on photo 3, you get this enlargement:
> > > > >
> http://www.szczecin.tvp.pl/parawpolske/lotnicze/nowe_warpno3.jpg
> > > > >
> > > > > In it, you can see that the island is connected to the
German
> > > shore
> > > > by a
> > > > > breakwater or causeway.
> > > > >
> > > > > Lowell G. McManus
> > > > > Leesville, Louisiana, USA
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Artur Kroc" <kroc@i...>
> > > > > To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 9:58 AM
> > > > > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: plde border near Nowe
> Warpno/Altwarp
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Artur Kroc"
> <kroc@i...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Here are some aerial pictures plde border. Photos #1
and
> #3
> > > are
> > > > > > > showing a little island. Two peninsulas belong to polish
> > > > community
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > Nowe Warpno, and the next shore (visible on pic #3) is
> > > german.
> > > > This
> > > > > > > same area is seen at:
> > > > > > > http://www.pilot.pl/index.php3?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
z_city_id=0&katalog=n14_&max_katalog=n14_&x_obr=687&y_obr=1287&x_15=87
> > > > > > > 830&y_15=82355&form_t=0&tool=3&info=&lang=pl
> > > > > > > But I can not find any information about this little
> island
> > > > between
> > > > > > > both shores. Who is it's "owner"? Poland or Germany?
> > > > > > Pictures are here:
> > > > > >
> http://www.szczecin.tvp.pl/parawpolske/lotnicze_nowe_warpno.html
> > > > > >
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