In English: http://eucc.szc.pl/eng/podgrodzie.htm (without the
pictures, though).
Peter S.
--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Smaardijk"
<smaardijk@y...> wrote:
> Apparently, Kahlenberg does have a Polish name: Łysa Wyspa
(German
> name: Bald mountain; Polish name: Bald island). It is mentioned at
> http://eucc.szc.pl/podgrodzie/main.html ; it is 8 ha big and
> completely overgrown with reed.
> Still no mention of a breakwater or something similar.
> Peter S.
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Smaardijk"
> <smaardijk@y...> wrote:
> > Yes, that could be true. But I still think that there is more
> chance
> > of there being no breakwater. See the site from which the map was
> > taken: http://tinyurl.com/2pzq7 . Note that the harbour approach
> via
> > the navigation channel is from the north.
> >
> > I find it very strange that I can't find any reference on the
> > internet on the building of a breakwater across the border. I
can't
> > find anything on the island, too, apart from the name "Kahleberg"
> on
> > this map and a reference to "Kahlenberg" in a Polish text on the
> > course of the DEPL boundary (Google cache of
> > http://szczecin.slonca.net/teksty/granica.html ). Strange that
this
> > island doesn't seem to have a Polish name, being Polish. The
other
> > island in the Neuwarper See/Jezioro Nowowarpieñskie, the Riether
> > Werder, does have a Polish name according to this text (Ostrów),
> > although it is German. The old name of the island is Wozstra
> > according to the website http://www.villa-
> > rieth.de/html/gemeinde.html . This is clearly a Slavic name
> > meaning "island" (cf. the Russian "ostrov"). The course of the
> > boundary around this island is rather peculiar according to a
> German
> > map I have here: it looks like the boundary is following part of
> the
> > eastern shore of the island (where the straight boundary in the
> > Neuwarper See is interrupted by the island). But my map is not
very
> > detailed so that could be wrong.
> >
> > Peter S.
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G. McManus"
> > <mcmanus71496@m...> wrote:
> > > Peter,
> > >
> > > Perhaps the breakwater is newer than the map and your photo.
> > Clearly, the map
> > > was made since the reunification of Germany, but the breakwater
> > could be even
> > > newer. It is in a position to protect the small harbor, and
you
> > can see in the
> > > photo how shallow the water is. Since the German map shows the
> > island in
> > > Poland, any breakwater would cross the boundary and might have
a
> > monument on it!
> > >
> > > Lowell G. McManus
> > > Leesville, Louisiana, USA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@y...>
> > > To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 1:55 PM
> > > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: plde border near Nowe
Warpno/Altwarp
> > >
> > >
> > > > And a picture of that harbour: http://tinyurl.com/3cayk
> > > > Peter S.
> > > >
> > > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Smaardijk"
> > > > <smaardijk@y...> wrote:
> > > > > Looks like an error. See http://tinyurl.com/2qm2q (Altwarp
> > Harbour).
> > > > > Peter S.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G. McManus"
> > > > > <mcmanus71496@m...> wrote:
> > > > > > If you click on photo 3, you get this enlargement:
> > > > > >
> > http://www.szczecin.tvp.pl/parawpolske/lotnicze/nowe_warpno3.jpg
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In it, you can see that the island is connected to the
> German
> > > > shore
> > > > > by a
> > > > > > breakwater or causeway.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lowell G. McManus
> > > > > > Leesville, Louisiana, USA
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Artur Kroc" <kroc@i...>
> > > > > > To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 9:58 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: plde border near Nowe
> > Warpno/Altwarp
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Artur Kroc"
> > <kroc@i...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > Here are some aerial pictures plde border. Photos #1
> and
> > #3
> > > > are
> > > > > > > > showing a little island. Two peninsulas belong to
polish
> > > > > community
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > Nowe Warpno, and the next shore (visible on pic #3) is
> > > > german.
> > > > > This
> > > > > > > > same area is seen at:
> > > > > > > > http://www.pilot.pl/index.php3?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
>
z_city_id=0&katalog=n14_&max_katalog=n14_&x_obr=687&y_obr=1287&x_15=87
> > > > > > > > 830&y_15=82355&form_t=0&tool=3&info=&lang=pl
> > > > > > > > But I can not find any information about this little
> > island
> > > > > between
> > > > > > > > both shores. Who is it's "owner"? Poland or Germany?
> > > > > > > Pictures are here:
> > > > > > >
> > http://www.szczecin.tvp.pl/parawpolske/lotnicze_nowe_warpno.html
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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