There is clearly something connecting the nearest points of the German shore and
the island on the aerial photo.
On the same site where you found the map, there is a on-line form to send e-mail
to the Gemeindeverwaltung/Hafenmeister at Altwarp. It is at
http://tinyurl.com/3y2x8 . Perhaps someone who speaks German could send him an
inquiry.
Lowell G. McManus
Leesville, Louisiana, USA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>
To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 10:09 AM
Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: plde border near Nowe Warpno/Altwarp
Yes, that could be true. But I still think that there is more chance
of there being no breakwater. See the site from which the map was
taken: http://tinyurl.com/2pzq7 . Note that the harbour approach via
the navigation channel is from the north.
I find it very strange that I can't find any reference on the
internet on the building of a breakwater across the border. I can't
find anything on the island, too, apart from the name "Kahleberg" on
this map and a reference to "Kahlenberg" in a Polish text on the
course of the DEPL boundary (Google cache of
http://szczecin.slonca.net/teksty/granica.html ). Strange that this
island doesn't seem to have a Polish name, being Polish. The other
island in the Neuwarper See/Jezioro Nowowarpieñskie, the Riether
Werder, does have a Polish name according to this text (Ostrów),
although it is German. The old name of the island is Wozstra
according to the website http://www.villa-
rieth.de/html/gemeinde.html . This is clearly a Slavic name
meaning "island" (cf. the Russian "ostrov"). The course of the
boundary around this island is rather peculiar according to a German
map I have here: it looks like the boundary is following part of the
eastern shore of the island (where the straight boundary in the
Neuwarper See is interrupted by the island). But my map is not very
detailed so that could be wrong.
Peter S.
--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G. McManus"
<mcmanus71496@m...> wrote:
> Peter,
>
> Perhaps the breakwater is newer than the map and your photo.
Clearly, the map
> was made since the reunification of Germany, but the breakwater
could be even
> newer. It is in a position to protect the small harbor, and you
can see in the
> photo how shallow the water is. Since the German map shows the
island in
> Poland, any breakwater would cross the boundary and might have a
monument on it!
>
> Lowell G. McManus
> Leesville, Louisiana, USA
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@y...>
> To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 1:55 PM
> Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: plde border near Nowe Warpno/Altwarp
>
>
> > And a picture of that harbour: http://tinyurl.com/3cayk
> > Peter S.
> >
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Smaardijk"
> > <smaardijk@y...> wrote:
> > > Looks like an error. See http://tinyurl.com/2qm2q (Altwarp
Harbour).
> > > Peter S.
> > >
> > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G. McManus"
> > > <mcmanus71496@m...> wrote:
> > > > If you click on photo 3, you get this enlargement:
> > > >
http://www.szczecin.tvp.pl/parawpolske/lotnicze/nowe_warpno3.jpg
> > > >
> > > > In it, you can see that the island is connected to the German
> > shore
> > > by a
> > > > breakwater or causeway.
> > > >
> > > > Lowell G. McManus
> > > > Leesville, Louisiana, USA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Artur Kroc" <kroc@i...>
> > > > To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 9:58 AM
> > > > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: plde border near Nowe
Warpno/Altwarp
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Artur Kroc"
<kroc@i...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > Here are some aerial pictures plde border. Photos #1 and
#3
> > are
> > > > > > showing a little island. Two peninsulas belong to polish
> > > community
> > > > > of
> > > > > > Nowe Warpno, and the next shore (visible on pic #3) is
> > german.
> > > This
> > > > > > same area is seen at:
> > > > > > http://www.pilot.pl/index.php3?
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
z_city_id=0&katalog=n14_&max_katalog=n14_&x_obr=687&y_obr=1287&x_15=87
> > > > > > 830&y_15=82355&form_t=0&tool=3&info=&lang=pl
> > > > > > But I can not find any information about this little
island
> > > between
> > > > > > both shores. Who is it's "owner"? Poland or Germany?
> > > > > Pictures are here:
> > > > >
http://www.szczecin.tvp.pl/parawpolske/lotnicze_nowe_warpno.html
> > > > >
> > > > >
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