Subject: Re: a funny thing keeps happening on the way to menhus
Date: Mar 18, 2004 @ 17:06
Author: acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
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> excellent analysistoo
>
> & of course it was multi wishfully thought from the start here
>bridged
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G. McManus"
> <mcmanus71496@m...> wrote:
> > I agree that the boundary through Portsmouth Harbor in the
> wide mouth of the
> > Piscataqua River lacks proper demarcation, but any fair
> interpretation of the
> > 1740 royal decree's "Middle of the River" would have to leave
> the naval base on
> > Seavey Island in Maine. There's no comparison between the
> wide, deep channel
> > south of the island and the narrow, shallow, and twice
> channel north ofwho
> > the island. Just look at the soundings on the topo map!
> >
> > New Hampshire's previous claim to the low water line on the
> north shore (shot
> > down by the Supremes in 2001 without telling us where the
> boundary really is)
> > was clearly based on something other than the
> aforementioned order of George II
> > in council--namely prescription and acquiescence.
> >
> > I suspect that the comedian from Dover, New Hampshire,
> wishes to avoid Mainesay:
> > income taxes on his earnings at the naval yard, is going to
> >on
> > "Well, you know, Maine (and Massachusetts before it) were in
> past times rather
> > lax in asserting their sovereignty over Seavey Island, and the
> feds were
> > perennially confused as to the postal address for the naval
> base, so that puts
> > it in tax-free New Hampshire!"
> >
> > I seem to recall that a long history of federal involvement that
> was oblivious
> > to the presence of any state boundary, coupled with extended
> neglect by New
> > Jersey, did not avail New York any more of Ellis Island than
> Charles II had
> > granted to the Duke of York in 1664. I suspect that the
> Supremes will rule this
> > time as they did then.
> >
> > I don't blame Mr. Bourre for pointing out that the boundary is
> uncertain and
> > bringing the issue to a head; but in the meantime, I'd advise
> him to set aside
> > the money that Maine wants. Anything else would be wishful
> thinking.
> >
> > Lowell G. McManus
> > Leesville, Louisiana, USA
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "m06079" <barbaria_longa@h...>
> > To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 11:30 AM
> > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: a funny thing keeps happening
> the way to menhusconflict
> >
> >
> > > the legal briefs behind the tax revolt bravura
> > > http://supct.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/130ORIG.ZS.html
> > >
> > > & tho the usgs topo does indeed place seavey island
> shipyard
> > > squarely within maine
> > > http://topozone.com/map.asp?lat=43.08083&lon=-70.735
> > > if you zoom out & pan around from there
> > > especially toward the south
> > > you will find clear signs of the border uncertainty &or
> thatgood
> > > does indeed prevail thruout this area
> > >
> > > which btw is also the cause & general area of the police
> condo
> > > tho i still cant positively identify its tripoints or true extent
> > >
> > > & the uncertainty of all the above is just the result of not
> knowing
> > > which interpretation to honor of the legal delineation
> > > namely
> > > the middle of the river
> > > or the main navigation channel
> > > or whatever
> > >
> > > but especially wherever islands such as this one are
> concerned
> > >
> > > & thats the question that is probably headed back to the
> > > supreme court right now with our comedian friend here
> > > one way or the other
> > >
> > > & we
> > > the precision try pointers of the world
> > > well we can only stand by hoping the court will have the
> > > sense to take this opportunity to secure the entire menhhttp://www.seacoastonline.com/news/03162004/news/5522.htm
> border
> > > from ever blowing in the wind again
> > > & therefore to pin it down all the way to menhus
> > >
> > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "acroorca2002"
> > > <orc@o...> wrote:
> > > >
> > >
>
> > > >have
> > > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "m06079"
> > > > <barbaria_longa@h...> wrote:
> > > > > ah so
> > > > > already plumbed your well to a happy ending too i trust
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > & to review & summarize what else of relevance we
> > > beenin
> > > > > seeing here on menh in recent years
> > > > >
> > > > > 1
> > > > > this man is just the van & tip of a rising iceberg of tax
> revolt by
> > > > > portsmouth shipyard workers resident in maine
> > > > > which has been bringing this ill defined border to a
> political
> > > > head
> > > > > over many months now
> > > > >
> > > > > 2
> > > > > believe it or not
> > > > > the unresolved legal issues are pretty much as stated
> theto
> > > > > article
> > > > > as i understand them
> > > > >
> > > > > so this boor fellow may really know whereof he boasts
> > > > >
> > > > > in fact i would bet this mess is more than ripe enough
> riseborder
> > > > > straight to the supreme court again
> > > > > unless they nip it in the bud with an instant border
> > > commission
> > > > >
> > > > > & that is something they appear to have been
> assiduously
> > > > > avoiding
> > > > > unlike our wild & crazy ctri messers
> > > > >
> > > > > 3
> > > > > pro tempore
> > > > > there is a de facto police condominium of the busiest
> areas
> > > of
> > > > > the piscataqua harbor area
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > & 4
> > > > > as you probably also know
> > > > > & as has already come up in this case
> > > > > even an official map does not necessarily define a
> > > > > nor dispose of a disputeMENHUS,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G.
> > > McManus"
> > > > > <mcmanus71496@m...> wrote:
> > > > > > I hope that this does lead to a clarification of
> but Ia
> > > > > don't think the
> > > > > > fellow has much of a chance with his tax case. I have
> > > > "1977Hampshire
> > > > > Official Highway
> > > > > > Map of New Hampshire" issued by the New
> > > > > Division of Economichttp://www.seacoastonline.com/news/03152004/news/5417.htm
> > > > > > Development that clearly shows (in its Portsmouth
> inset)
> > > that
> > > > > the Portsmouth
> > > > > > Naval Shipyard is in Maine.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lowell G. McManus
> > > > > > Leesville, Louisiana, USA
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Michael Donner" <barbaria_longa@h...>
> > > > > > To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 1:31 PM
> > > > > > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] a funny thing keeps
> happening on
> > > > the
> > > > > way to menhus
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > this one ought to spawn a whole new menh border
> > > > > commission &or supreme court
> > > > > > > culmination
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
> > > > > > > & put an end to both of the outstanding menhpiscataqua
> enigmas
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > this famously convoluted & urgent one in
> > > > harbor3mile
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > &
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > the forgotten
> > > > > > > & indeed practically esoteric
> > > > > > > final stitch
> > > > > > > from the breakwater at the isles of shoals to the
> > > > limits__________________________________________________
> > > > > at menhus
> > > > > > > aka mes
> > > > > > > aka nhe
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > & the gathering legal storm should lead to the
> resolution
> > > of
> > > > > both areas &
> > > > > > > thus to the tripoint
> > > > > > > which is still technically flapping in the wind
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
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