Two insertions below from me, Michael, and I won't be clipping things
away because I understood that you don't like that.
Peter S.
--- In
BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@i...>
wrote:
> short
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "m06079" <barbaria_longa@h...>
> To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 10:56 PM
> Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Jungholz - additional info on markers!
>
>
> you bet
>
> a short resume
>
>
> & i apologize once again if things are not always as simple here
> as we may have liked them to be
>
> for after all
> we are often talking about some rather complicated stuff
> & especially so when we are really pursuing our actual bp topic
> as we are doing now
I don't think it is that complex, but well, that is personal, I
guess. For me, the cross is the quadripoint. There's no point for us
to duplicate the work of professional surveyors; they already did the
work for us, and it has been documented very accurately.
>
> & so please do help me also
> by asking as specifically as possible whenever you can
> positively identify any areas of uncertainty or puzzlement etc in
> what i am saying
>
I would be surprised if you didn't get the point that some people
don't even get to the "what" you are saying, only because of the
way "how" you say it. English is not my native language, and it is
not the native language of many of us here. But even I can judge that
the way you are using that language is far from conventional. That
can have its purpose, it can be fun, it can be lots of things, but
the most important thing of language, in my opinion, is that it is
understood by others. Please be a bit more considerate towards us.
>
> but in a nutshell
> if you will bring a reliable tape measure to jungholz
> then you can measure off the 261 centimeter distance that is
> shown on the diagram you posted
> running from the kt kataster stone to marker 110
> & perhaps running specifically to the cross point depicted on
> marker 110
> for we dont really know that yet
>
> & thus you can perform a first crude check on whether the
> crossing point of this symbolic cross is indeed as accurate a
> locator of the actual border cross point as several of us seem to
> believe it is
>
> & if your measurement reaches this cross point exactly
> then you will most probably have confirmed our belief
> or will have greatly buttressed it
> until further measurements can be made from the other markers
>
> but such measurements would require better equipment
> so lets not even think about that yet
>
> for once you have found in this simple way that you have most
> probably arrived at the correct square centimeter
> further checks might prove academic anyway
>
> & then too you can look or probe further still
> into the recessed area
> for the most central &or deepest pinpoint within it
>
> & this would advance your accuracy from the merely centimetric
> to the millimetric level
>
> & that will probably be the best anyone will ever do there
>
>
> but if your measurement does not exactly coincide with this
> cross point
> then we have more to do here
> involving several more & longer measurements
> as also shown on your diagram
> before we can find & verify the true border crossing point
>
> & that is the true value to us of all these indirect supporting
> markers
>
>
> now i hope that at least helps
> & just to keep it short
> i wont say more unless there is still something you dont get
>
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Jesper Nielsen"
> <jesniel@i...> wrote:
> > A short resume please....
> >
> > Jesper
> > .....................
> > all in boss
> >
> > & happily we still do have somewhere to go & grow here
> >
> > for you have called the game on our most excellent adventure
> > which is
> > to corroborate the square centimeter of absolute truth
> > & possibly even to find the square millimeter of absolute truth
> > now that you have shown how we can definitely make such
> tries
> >
> >
> > for thus far
> > our journey to the truth has led us to merely assume & imagine
> > that the exact boundary crossing point is as indicated by the
> > cross symbol on marker 110
> >
> > & this despite its multiple eccentricities
> >
> >
> > but now the pursuit can be positively advanced
> > by vermessungsstein or versicherungsstein or kataster
> > for it is all the same to us in light of the trigonometric
> exactitudes
> > we now have for them all
> > thanx to you
> > at the bottom of
> > http://tinyurl.com/ypolb
> >
> >
> > most poignantly & specifically
> > for starters
> > the fact that the reference point on the kt rock is exactly 261
> > centimeters from the absolute truth of the quadripoint
> > yikes
> >
> >
> > so just bring a rigid tape measure & see for yourself &
> ourselves
> > whether a 261 centimeter arc centered on the kt center actually
> > does or actually does not sweep the exact center of the cross
> > symbol on marker 110
> >
> > & if it does
> > then our assumption is at least greatly corroborated
> >
> > & all that would remain for the present expedition to do is to
> pay
> > the most acupunctural visit it can to that symbolic crosshairs
> >
> > which may mean feeling your way to it with a pointier object
> than
> > your finger or eyeball
> > in such a dark & shadowy groove or valley
> >
> > for we dont know exactly whats in there
> > where these symbolic thalwegs meet
> > unless maybe mats can answer this flat out from memory
> >
> >
> > but anyway
> > precisely therein would lie the additional quantum leap
> between
> > what is now only a hopefully square centimeter of truth & what
> > could prove to be an utterly real square millimeter of truth
> >
> > & both these advances over our present knowlege may actually
> > emerge here under your guidance
> >
> > & they would be subject only to the full trigonometric check that
> > could be made by a later & better equipped expedition
> > since it is always nice to leave at least something undone for
> > future generations anyway
> > so they too can say
> > it seems like we will never get finished with this great place
> >
> > however even if we do finish here this time in class aa
> > happily we still have the far more challenging baarle & bengali
> > border crosses in our future anyway
> >
> > >
> > > all yours
> > >
> > > Peter H.
> > >
> > >
> > > de bedste hilsener
> > > best regards
> > > mit freundlichen Grüssen
> >
> >
> >
> >
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