Subject: Re: source of rio grande etc
Date: Jan 30, 2004 @ 22:38
Author: m06079 ("m06079" <barbaria_longa@...>)
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the actual mxtxus1836 point in the great divide basin would then fall
about here
http://topozone.com/map.asp?lat=42&lon=-107.5466
again hopefully & subject to better data

--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "m06079" <barbaria_longa@h...>
wrote:
> > the main event
> > i think
> > is the original mxtxus1836 ghost tricountry point
> > the only clearly defined de jure tricountry point ever to have
> taken
> > form or been dreamt up as it were within the usa
> >
> > it is somewhere potentially very precise
> > yet very probably never officially marked
> > & possibly never even unofficially commemorated
> >
> > somewhere in the great divide basin of south central wyoming
> >
> > at nlat precisely 42 degrees x wlong precisely of the source of
the
> > rio grande
> >
> > so any try for 1836mxtxus1845
> > as this point might also be called in full
> > would have to be preceded by a very careful & thorough sawanabori
> of
> > the rio all the way up to the ridge line of the continental divide
>
>
> or can anyone say if this rio source or metasource point was
perhaps
> specified in the mxtx1836 treaty as the summit of canby mtn
>
> rather than the point to which the mainstream could be traced
> experimentally
> even above its headspring
> to the crest
>
> all as shown or implied here i hope
> http://topozone.com/map.asp?z=13&n=4186424%
20&e=275920&u=2&datum=nad27
>
> such a specification would produce the mxtxus1836 position in
> nlat 42deg at wlong approx 107d32m42s
> for starters
>
> but it might be possible to be more precise
> if we could lay a gps on whatever the actual rio metasource point
> proves to be
>
>
> & then what if we actually find something on that longitude at the
> mxtxus latitude
> yow
> a long shot
> but maybe someone has done all this before
> & left a marker
>
> or better yet maybe we would have the honor of leaving a marker
>
> what fun
>
> anyone
>
>
> > & i know from my study of the headstreams of this river on
topozone
> > that this will not be an easy task
> > but it might be great fun
> > first to just even fully try on topozone & then to check on foot
> >
> > btw
> > the one other de jure ghost tricountry point possibility in the
usa
> > 1783esgbus1803
> > may fall at the point where the full mississippi river descends
> into
> > louisiana
> > if i have it all right
> >
> > plus there was also a disputed 1783esgbus1803 vaguely in minnesota
> >
> > & a defacto 18th century esfrgb somewhere probably in southern
> > georgia or alabama
> >
> > & 2 defacto 17th century frgbnls
> > according to a dutch map
> > somewhere in quebec or new hampshire
> > & somewhere in western new york or pennsylvania
> >
> > but thats it
> >
> > slim pickins or a nice little list
> > led off by the one positively real one in your area as described
> above
> >
> > & concluded
> > if anyone wanted to complete this local ensemble of try points
> > by the disputed & highly improbable 1819esgbusus1845 tricountry
> point
> > also on nlat 42 degrees in south central wyoming
> > & also on the continental divide
> > maybe some 50 miles or so west of the txmxus ghost
> >
> > these are very special if not utterly unique points & worth the
> candle
> > dont you agree
> >
> >
> > & again this is hurled up at such high speed please be especially
> > generous about understanding it
> > or filling in any blanks
> > or again asking
> >
> > out of time