Yes Yes Yes!
and the roads were mere paths between the sunflower
crops!
--- Doug Murray <
doug@...>
wrote:
>
> Do roundabouts that are created by crazy drivers
> count?
> I seem to recall going on a circular drive around
> the marker for
> Yugoslavia-Hungary-Romania in a white van.
> It was driven by a certain Austrian and filled with
> people from places
> like Finland and America.
> I believe it was the GEEBE in 2002.
> In essence, you could exit into any one of the three
> countries.
> However, I believe the entire journey was illegal.
> And, there was no road either... :)
>
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, January 26, 2004, at 07:30 AM, Peter
> Smaardijk wrote:
>
> > More of those in the same neighbourhood: the
> roundabouts on/near the
> > locations of former DENL markers 230, 231 and 232
> (Eef's site,
> >
>
http://members.lycos.nl/grenspalen/gp-depruis-nl-228-238.html
> ).
> >
> > Peter S.
> >
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, Doug Murray
> <doug@d...> wrote:
> > >
> > > And in keeping with our border theme, here is an
> international
> > > roundabout on the German - Netherlands border in
> Kerkrade,
> > > NL/Herzogenrath, DE.
> > >
> > > http://grenzen.150m.com/kerkradeGB.htm
> > >
> > > Thanks, BK!
> > >
> > > Doug
> > >
> > > On Monday, January 26, 2004, at 02:25 AM,
> bwhyte@u... wrote:
> > >
> > > > Even in gridded streets roundabout are indeed
> useful. They do not
> > have
> > > > to be large. where two small residential
> streets cross here in
> > > > Melbourne, a small roundabout only a few
> metres across might be
> > > > installed. It eases traffic flow considerably.
> In LA where two
> > streets
> > > > crossed, one would have stop or give way/yield
> signs on both its
> > arms
> > > > and the other would flow freely. Or sometimes
> all 4 arms of the
> > > > intersection would have stop signs. In LA this
> meant the first
> > car to
> > > > the intersection had right of way. Here in
> Australia 4 arms with
> > stop
> > > > signs means the first car gets right of way
> then everything
> > behind him
> > > > also, with everyone else giving way to the
> right.
> > > > But by adding a roundabout, it allows everyone
> to slow, and go
> > round,
> > > > coming off where they want. No more cars
> turning right blocking
> > lanes
> > > > when they give way to through traffic.
> > > >
> > > > Roundabouts are traffic calming measures and
> might be large ones
> > used
> > > > where major roads meet, like in the posted
> pictures, or just
> > small
> > > > ones on fairly quiet local streets requiring
> no more room than
> > the
> > > > streets already used before the roundabout was
> built.
> > > >
> > > > I recall someone in LA mentioning California
> didn't have
> > roundabouts
> > > > for some legal reason: fear of crashes when
> people couldn't use
> > them
> > > > properly, and so the city didn't want the
> liability.
> > > >
> > > > I believe in France, ie Arc de Triomphe, the
> roundabout traffic
> > gives
> > > > way to incoming traffic. Hence the infamous
> gridlocks there.
> > > >
> > > > Here in� Australia/NZ, incoming gives way on
> the right to traffic
> > on
> > > > the roundabout, just as at any other
> intersection.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I've seen roundabouts that are no more than a
> tyre size in
> > diameter
> > > > (one, in Malaysia i think, was just that: a
> tyre around a pole in
> > the
> > > > middle of the intersection, more of a
> fender/bumper for the pole,
> > than
> > > > a roundabout!
> > > >
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