HU->YU->RO->HU... sounds like a song of some sort.
On Monday, January 26, 2004, at 09:45 PM, Jesper Nielsen wrote:
> No, it was the other way. Anti-clockwise.
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> From: "Doug Murray" <doug@...>
> To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 3:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: roundabouts
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> What would have happened if there had been a crash into the monument?
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> Our journey must have been HU->RO->YU->HU or was it the other way?
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> On Monday, January 26, 2004, at 11:01 AM, Jesper Nielsen wrote:
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>> I never thought about that.
>>
>> We crossed three Eastern European borders in car - illegally - in
>> less than a minute.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Doug Murray
>> To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 7:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: roundabouts
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>> Do roundabouts that are created by crazy drivers count?
>> I seem to recall going on a circular drive around the marker for
>> Yugoslavia-Hungary-Romania in a white van.
>> It was driven by a certain Austrian and filled with people from
>> places like Finland and America.
>> I believe it was the GEEBE in 2002.
>> In essence, you could exit into any one of the three countries.
>> However, I believe the entire journey was illegal.
>> And, there was no road either... :)
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>> On Monday, January 26, 2004, at 07:30 AM, Peter Smaardijk wrote:
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>> More of those in the same neighbourhood: the roundabouts on/near
>> the
>> locations of former DENL markers 230, 231 and 232 (Eef's site,
>> http://members.lycos.nl/grenspalen/gp-depruis-nl-228-238.html ).
>>
>> Peter S.
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>> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, Doug Murray <doug@d...>
>> wrote:
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>>> And in keeping with our border theme, here is an international
>>> roundabout on the German - Netherlands border in Kerkrade,
>>> NL/Herzogenrath, DE.
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>>> http://grenzen.150m.com/kerkradeGB.htm
>>>
>>> Thanks, BK!
>>>
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 26, 2004, at 02:25 AM, bwhyte@u... wrote:
>>>
>>>> Even in gridded streets roundabout are indeed useful. They do not
>> have
>>>> to be large. where two small residential streets cross here in
>>>> Melbourne, a small roundabout only a few metres across might be
>>>> installed. It eases traffic flow considerably. In LA where two
>> streets
>>>> crossed, one would have stop or give way/yield signs on both its
>> arms
>>>> and the other would flow freely. Or sometimes all 4 arms of the
>>>> intersection would have stop signs. In LA this meant the first
>> car to
>>>> the intersection had right of way. Here in Australia 4 arms with
>> stop
>>>> signs means the first car gets right of way then everything
>> behind him
>>>> also, with everyone else giving way to the right.
>>>> But by adding a roundabout, it allows everyone to slow, and go
>> round,
>>>> coming off where they want. No more cars turning right blocking
>> lanes
>>>> when they give way to through traffic.
>>>>
>>>> Roundabouts are traffic calming measures and might be large ones
>> used
>>>> where major roads meet, like in the posted pictures, or just
>> small
>>>> ones on fairly quiet local streets requiring no more room than
>> the
>>>> streets already used before the roundabout was built.
>>>>
>>>> I recall someone in LA mentioning California didn't have
>> roundabouts
>>>> for some legal reason: fear of crashes when people couldn't use
>> them
>>>> properly, and so the city didn't want the liability.
>>>>
>>>> I believe in France, ie Arc de Triomphe, the roundabout traffic
>> gives
>>>> way to incoming traffic. Hence the infamous gridlocks there.
>>>>
>>>> Here in Australia/NZ, incoming gives way on the right to traffic
>> on
>>>> the roundabout, just as at any other intersection.
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> I've seen roundabouts that are no more than a tyre size in
>> diameter
>>>> (one, in Malaysia i think, was just that: a tyre around a pole in
>> the
>>>> middle of the intersection, more of a fender/bumper for the pole,
>> than
>>>> a roundabout!
>>>>
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