Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: roundabouts
Date: Jan 27, 2004 @ 06:04
Author: Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...>)
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I should have said:

It would have been an international incident of MONUMENTAL proportions!

Lowell G. McManus
Leesville, Louisiana, USA


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...>
To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 11:45 PM
Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: roundabouts


> It would have been an international incident of epic proportions!
>
> Lowell G. McManus
> Leesville, Louisiana, USA
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Doug Murray" <doug@...>
> To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 8:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: roundabouts
>
>
>
> What would have happened if there had been a crash into the monument?
>
> Our journey must have been HU->RO->YU->HU or was it the other way?
>
>
>
> On Monday, January 26, 2004, at 11:01 AM, Jesper Nielsen wrote:
>
> > I never thought about that.
> >
> > We crossed three Eastern European borders in car - illegally - in
> > less than a minute.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Doug Murray
> > To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 7:50 PM
> > Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: roundabouts
> >
> >
> >
> > Do roundabouts that are created by crazy drivers count?
> > I seem to recall going on a circular drive around the marker for
> > Yugoslavia-Hungary-Romania in a white van.
> > It was driven by a certain Austrian and filled with people from
> > places like Finland and America.
> > I believe it was the GEEBE in 2002.
> > In essence, you could exit into any one of the three countries.
> > However, I believe the entire journey was illegal.
> > And, there was no road either... :)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Monday, January 26, 2004, at 07:30 AM, Peter Smaardijk wrote:
> >
> >
> > More of those in the same neighbourhood: the roundabouts on/near
> > the
> > locations of former DENL markers 230, 231 and 232 (Eef's site,
> > http://members.lycos.nl/grenspalen/gp-depruis-nl-228-238.html ).
> >
> > Peter S.
> >
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, Doug Murray <doug@d...>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> And in keeping with our border theme, here is an international
> >> roundabout on the German - Netherlands border in Kerkrade,
> >> NL/Herzogenrath, DE.
> >>
> >> http://grenzen.150m.com/kerkradeGB.htm
> >>
> >> Thanks, BK!
> >>
> >> Doug
> >>
> >> On Monday, January 26, 2004, at 02:25 AM, bwhyte@u... wrote:
> >>
> >>> Even in gridded streets roundabout are indeed useful. They do not
> > have
> >>> to be large. where two small residential streets cross here in
> >>> Melbourne, a small roundabout only a few metres across might be
> >>> installed. It eases traffic flow considerably. In LA where two
> > streets
> >>> crossed, one would have stop or give way/yield signs on both its
> > arms
> >>> and the other would flow freely. Or sometimes all 4 arms of the
> >>> intersection would have stop signs. In LA this meant the first
> > car to
> >>> the intersection had right of way. Here in Australia 4 arms with
> > stop
> >>> signs means the first car gets right of way then everything
> > behind him
> >>> also, with everyone else giving way to the right.
> >>> But by adding a roundabout, it allows everyone to slow, and go
> > round,
> >>> coming off where they want. No more cars turning right blocking
> > lanes
> >>> when they give way to through traffic.
> >>>
> >>> Roundabouts are traffic calming measures and might be large ones
> > used
> >>> where major roads meet, like in the posted pictures, or just
> > small
> >>> ones on fairly quiet local streets requiring no more room than
> > the
> >>> streets already used before the roundabout was built.
> >>>
> >>> I recall someone in LA mentioning California didn't have
> > roundabouts
> >>> for some legal reason: fear of crashes when people couldn't use
> > them
> >>> properly, and so the city didn't want the liability.
> >>>
> >>> I believe in France, ie Arc de Triomphe, the roundabout traffic
> > gives
> >>> way to incoming traffic. Hence the infamous gridlocks there.
> >>>
> >>> Here in Australia/NZ, incoming gives way on the right to traffic
> > on
> >>> the roundabout, just as at any other intersection.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I've seen roundabouts that are no more than a tyre size in
> > diameter
> >>> (one, in Malaysia i think, was just that: a tyre around a pole in
> > the
> >>> middle of the intersection, more of a fender/bumper for the pole,
> > than
> >>> a roundabout!
> >>>
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