It would have been an international incident of epic proportions!
Lowell G. McManus
Leesville, Louisiana, USA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Murray" <doug@...>
To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: roundabouts
What would have happened if there had been a crash into the monument?
Our journey must have been HU->RO->YU->HU or was it the other way?
On Monday, January 26, 2004, at 11:01 AM, Jesper Nielsen wrote:
> I never thought about that.
>
> We crossed three Eastern European borders in car - illegally - in
> less than a minute.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Doug Murray
> To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 7:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: roundabouts
>
>
>
> Do roundabouts that are created by crazy drivers count?
> I seem to recall going on a circular drive around the marker for
> Yugoslavia-Hungary-Romania in a white van.
> It was driven by a certain Austrian and filled with people from
> places like Finland and America.
> I believe it was the GEEBE in 2002.
> In essence, you could exit into any one of the three countries.
> However, I believe the entire journey was illegal.
> And, there was no road either... :)
>
>
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> On Monday, January 26, 2004, at 07:30 AM, Peter Smaardijk wrote:
>
>
> More of those in the same neighbourhood: the roundabouts on/near
> the
> locations of former DENL markers 230, 231 and 232 (Eef's site,
> http://members.lycos.nl/grenspalen/gp-depruis-nl-228-238.html ).
>
> Peter S.
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, Doug Murray <doug@d...>
> wrote:
>>
>> And in keeping with our border theme, here is an international
>> roundabout on the German - Netherlands border in Kerkrade,
>> NL/Herzogenrath, DE.
>>
>> http://grenzen.150m.com/kerkradeGB.htm
>>
>> Thanks, BK!
>>
>> Doug
>>
>> On Monday, January 26, 2004, at 02:25 AM, bwhyte@u... wrote:
>>
>>> Even in gridded streets roundabout are indeed useful. They do not
> have
>>> to be large. where two small residential streets cross here in
>>> Melbourne, a small roundabout only a few metres across might be
>>> installed. It eases traffic flow considerably. In LA where two
> streets
>>> crossed, one would have stop or give way/yield signs on both its
> arms
>>> and the other would flow freely. Or sometimes all 4 arms of the
>>> intersection would have stop signs. In LA this meant the first
> car to
>>> the intersection had right of way. Here in Australia 4 arms with
> stop
>>> signs means the first car gets right of way then everything
> behind him
>>> also, with everyone else giving way to the right.
>>> But by adding a roundabout, it allows everyone to slow, and go
> round,
>>> coming off where they want. No more cars turning right blocking
> lanes
>>> when they give way to through traffic.
>>>
>>> Roundabouts are traffic calming measures and might be large ones
> used
>>> where major roads meet, like in the posted pictures, or just
> small
>>> ones on fairly quiet local streets requiring no more room than
> the
>>> streets already used before the roundabout was built.
>>>
>>> I recall someone in LA mentioning California didn't have
> roundabouts
>>> for some legal reason: fear of crashes when people couldn't use
> them
>>> properly, and so the city didn't want the liability.
>>>
>>> I believe in France, ie Arc de Triomphe, the roundabout traffic
> gives
>>> way to incoming traffic. Hence the infamous gridlocks there.
>>>
>>> Here in Australia/NZ, incoming gives way on the right to traffic
> on
>>> the roundabout, just as at any other intersection.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I've seen roundabouts that are no more than a tyre size in
> diameter
>>> (one, in Malaysia i think, was just that: a tyre around a pole in
> the
>>> middle of the intersection, more of a fender/bumper for the pole,
> than
>>> a roundabout!
>>>
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