Subject: Re: roundabouts
Date: Jan 26, 2004 @ 15:30
Author: Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
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More of those in the same neighbourhood: the roundabouts on/near the
locations of former DENL markers 230, 231 and 232 (Eef's site,
http://members.lycos.nl/grenspalen/gp-depruis-nl-228-238.html ).

Peter S.

--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, Doug Murray <doug@d...> wrote:
>
> And in keeping with our border theme, here is an international
> roundabout on the German - Netherlands border in Kerkrade,
> NL/Herzogenrath, DE.
>
> http://grenzen.150m.com/kerkradeGB.htm
>
> Thanks, BK!
>
> Doug
>
> On Monday, January 26, 2004, at 02:25 AM, bwhyte@u... wrote:
>
> > Even in gridded streets roundabout are indeed useful. They do not
have
> > to be large. where two small residential streets cross here in
> > Melbourne, a small roundabout only a few metres across might be
> > installed. It eases traffic flow considerably. In LA where two
streets
> > crossed, one would have stop or give way/yield signs on both its
arms
> > and the other would flow freely. Or sometimes all 4 arms of the
> > intersection would have stop signs. In LA this meant the first
car to
> > the intersection had right of way. Here in Australia 4 arms with
stop
> > signs means the first car gets right of way then everything
behind him
> > also, with everyone else giving way to the right.
> > But by adding a roundabout, it allows everyone to slow, and go
round,
> > coming off where they want. No more cars turning right blocking
lanes
> > when they give way to through traffic.
> >
> > Roundabouts are traffic calming measures and might be large ones
used
> > where major roads meet, like in the posted pictures, or just
small
> > ones on fairly quiet local streets requiring no more room than
the
> > streets already used before the roundabout was built.
> >
> > I recall someone in LA mentioning California didn't have
roundabouts
> > for some legal reason: fear of crashes when people couldn't use
them
> > properly, and so the city didn't want the liability.
> >
> > I believe in France, ie Arc de Triomphe, the roundabout traffic
gives
> > way to incoming traffic. Hence the infamous gridlocks there.
> >
> > Here in  Australia/NZ, incoming gives way on the right to traffic
on
> > the roundabout, just as at any other intersection.
> >
> >
> >
> > I've seen roundabouts that are no more than a tyre size in
diameter
> > (one, in Malaysia i think, was just that: a tyre around a pole in
the
> > middle of the intersection, more of a fender/bumper for the pole,
than
> > a roundabout!
> >
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