i agree we should forget about all of this sad stuff & in fact about
all sad stuff
& i say this precisely because our thought is so creatively powerful
& who wants to create more & more sad stuff really
so indeed lets forget it all
& i also agree that it is in any case a stretch to present any of it
here at this site devoted to multipointing & bliss
i am sure anything multiple &or blissful would always be appreciated
here & well recollected too
--- In
BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Kaufman"
<mikekaufman79@y...> wrote:
> Forgetting about Algerian terrorist Ahmed Ressam who did come to
the
> U.S. via Canada for his plotted "Millenium Attack?" A Pre-9/11
plot
> at that. While the 9/11 attackers did not come from Canada, this
> example demonstrates that others can and have. Increased border
> security, and the large amount of media attention given to it, also
> acts as a deterrant.
> Remember there are jerks at borders all over, we've all had the
> experiences. I've always maintained there's a disproportionately
> large amount of assholes at U.S. border stations. I've had U.S.
> guards shine flashlights in my face, ask what hospital I was born
at,
> what I do for work and where and why, etc. But just because there
> are rude folks working on the U.S. side, it doesn't necessarily
mean
> the underlying policy is "evil" (nor does it mean Americans are all
> uninformed). The Ressam case demonstrated how the border could be
> used in such a plot and 9/11 demonstrated how bad the results could
> be.
> There is an obvious need for training border guards to successfully
> do their jobs in a more courteous and respectful manner. But it
> seems a stretch to use this to advocate one's political opinion.
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, Doug Murray <doug@d...> wrote:
> >
> > It's an interesting political comparison: walls falling in
Europe,
> > walls going up in North America.
> > And, sadly, the story that some of the 9-11 hijackers came via
> Canada
> > continues to make the rounds.
> > As we know, this was not the case -- and many of the hijackers
came
> > into the US legally on visas.
> >
> > I don't want to start a big discussion on American politics... at
> the
> > end of the day, the US can do what they
> > want on their border. And the only people with the power to
change
> it
> > are well informed American voters.
> >
> >
> > On Saturday, January 10, 2004, at 12:31 PM, hilversum96 wrote:
> >
> > > http://www.detnews.com/2004/metro/0401/10/metro-31829.htm
> > >
> > > If the like doesn't work, it's on the front page of the
Saturday,
> > > January 10 edition.
> > >
> > > These are the same people who believe that anyone who doesn't
> look,
> > > think, or act like THEM should automatically be subject to extra
> > > scrutiny, both at and away from the border. (I knew it. I
remember
> > > telling someone right on 9-11-01 that the whole thing will give
> the
> > > green light to that special breed of people who thrive on
making
> life
> > > miserable for everyone else to go ahead and be even bigger you-
> know-
> > > whats.)
> > >
> > > "Huge risk." WHAT "huge risk?" Having a bag fall off one of
those
> > > Michigan-bound garbage trucks from Toronto?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > <image.tiff>
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