The CY district of Famagusta/Ammochostos is very effecient and here is their
reply to the issue:
Yes, part of the Sovereign British Areas is located within the Ammochostos
District. The British Areas are sovereign and they function by their own
laws. However, according to the Powers and Duties (Officers of the Republic
of Cyprus) Ordinance (Variations to Schedule) Order 2003 of the SBA, some
powers are relinquished by the SBA to the District Officer and to other
Officials of the Republic of Cyprus. These powers are specified by the above
law and they involve mostly administrative matters. Other than the military
bases themselves, the SBA extend to communities and municipalities as well.
The free areas of the Ammochostos district consists of 6 Community Councils
and 3 Municipalities. Three of the Community Councils (Akhna, Acheritou and
Augorou) and one Municipality (Derynia) have areas within the SBA.
Are these the only examples of second division boundaries cutting
international boundaries?
One other similar situation come to my memory is the Hala'ib Tringle on
Egypt Sudan (
http://www.nicolette.dk/borderbase/country.php?country=43)
Jesper
----- Original Message -----
From: <orc@...>
To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 11:37 PM
Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: CY boundary crosses
> so it appears you are indicating in at least 1 case a later border
> has crossed & trumped an earlier one
>
> which in itself is not so strange
> especially in situations of conquest or colonization
>
> & in at least 1 case
> possibly the same case
> the historic boundary is now being invoked by 2 different parties for
> different political purposes
>
> which in itself is also not all that strange
>
> but when the past & the possible combine to practically equal or even
> overwhelm the present reality
> well i would agree such an intersection is or would be a bit unusual
>
> but then too
> dont you think it is probably just the old interethnic lines
> reasserting themselves once again
> over the frozen military landscape
> now that they can
> or even must
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@i...>
> wrote:
> > The Brits did made such promises, but the maps I have of Cyprus are
> well
> > before the UN Cyprus peace plan. And they all show this boundary
> line.
> >
> > Jesper
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <orc@o...>
> > To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 10:08 PM
> > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: CY boundary crosses
> >
> >
> > > didnt the brits agree to give some of the sbas back to a
> > > reconstituted european republic of cyprus
> > >
> > > or something perhaps like that may be the point
> > >
> > > but what i think you are observing & reporting here in any case
> are
> > > all really just boundary proposals
> > > & made for whatever reason without regard to the extant borders
> > >
> > > or is that not the case as you understand it
> > >
> > > & if so then the intersections produced by these boundaries are of
> > > course crossings in time or possibility rather than real border
> > > crosses in actual geographical space
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Jesper Nielsen"
> <jesniel@i...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > All right
> > > >
> > > > it might be a different type of boundary cross.
> > > >
> > > > See http://www.nicolette.dk/diverse/cybx.gif.
> > > >
> > > > Red/white thick line is offcourse the boundaries of the British
> > > Sovereign
> > > > Base Area.
> > > >
> > > > Thin dotted line is the district boundary between Famagusta and
> > > Larnaca
> > > > Districts seen from the view point of Republic of Cyprus.
> > > >
> > > > According to http://www.emu.edu.tr/english/images/trncyprus.gif
> > > it's the
> > > > district boundary of Famagusta and Nicosia from the view point
> of
> > > the
> > > > Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.
> > > >
> > > > However, I don't know what practical meaning a CY district
> boundary
> > > has in
> > > > UK territory.
> > > >
> > > > Jesper
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: <orc@o...>
> > > > To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 7:46 PM
> > > > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: CY boundary crosses
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > not sure i get it yet
> > > > >
> > > > > are you saying these crossing boundaries merely resemble what
> we
> > > have
> > > > > been calling boundary crosses
> > > > > or are a new & different sort of boundary crosses in need of a
> > > > > distinct name
> > > > > or actually are exactly what we have been calling boundary
> crosses
> > > > >
> > > > > & could you perhaps zero in on one of them to clarify this
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Jesper Nielsen"
> > > <jesniel@i...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > The CY districts boundaries cross into the Sovereign Base
> Areas
> > > and
> > > > > also into the UN and TRNC areas, which particulary at the SBAs
> > > make
> > > > > several boundary crosses.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.greece.org/cyprus/Maps.htm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jesper
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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