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BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G. McManus"
<mcmanus71496@m...> wrote:
> Adam,
>
> I'll try to answer your questions that were addressed to me below
by mid-week.
hahahahahaha
& much more below
> Some will require a little research, and I'll be away tomorrow.
>
> Lowell G. McManus
> Leesville, Louisiana, USA
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "adamnvillani" <avillani@u...>
> To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 10:36 PM
> Subject: [BoundaryPoint] mxn trip?
>
>
> > A while ago somebody (it might have been acroorca2002) posted
about a
> > trip to visit the northernmost point in mexico, which I guess
under
> > our notation would be something like mxn or mxus2azcabc.
all correct
& by alphabetizing your diglyphs into say azbcca in the present case
your searches will be far more successful & your contributions far
likelier to be found by others
with &or without the mxus2 prefix
Anyway, I
> > was planning a visit out the that area either this coming Friday
or
> > Saturday, and was wondering if anyone had any hints on the best
ways
> > to approach the point.
bravos i cheer
& not only hints but a request
to get great pix of all the fantastic details surrounding this point
which all previous visitors have neglected to do
for hints of course please begin again from message 5181
& if you really are trying to make the point itself
then extra bravos for picking up where my try stalled atop both towers
at class e as in elusive
so near & yet so far
for you will find both banks clogged with tall impenetrable veggies
as this map also indicates
http://topozone.com/map.asp?lat=32.72583&lon=-114.725
& no clear view from either tower
& the cable car
which could be used to get a clear view
probably still bolted fast to the american tower
& too risky to borrow anyway because then how would you get down
after you have had your class c ogle at the tripoint from high above
the middle of the river
but my guess is the river level will be quite low now
so you ought to be able to walk or float down from a point on the
right bank above the north end of the veggie line
as also shown on the topo
but the tripoint vicinity is probably best accessed in any case by
parking in the parking area about a mile north of the andrade border
post & walking across the alamo canal bridge before descending the
last mile along the river
the trick will be in knowing where the bcca survey line terminates
once you have found the thalweg delimiting azbc
because then you wont be able to see over the veggies enclosing you
hahahahaha
no mxus markers certainly
& not the wall end
& probably not even the tower tops unless you move up or down the
river a bit
& of course there is still the question of how azca terminates too
because there could conceivably be a need for one of our famous
tripointing stitches here also
if for example
azca does follow midchannel & azbc the thalweg
with the thalweg falling east of midchannel here
right
the mxn point & mxus turnpoint could actually lie a few feet east of
azbcca
so you will have your work cut out for you
running back & forth from the river bed to one or the other of the
towers
to best guess the tripoint position
& i think best guessing is all you will be doing unless you bring a
machete to hack a monument sight line
i believe it is mostly just dry reeds & worth this try
I guess Lowell would have the goods on where
> > exactly in the Colorado River the tripoint is, since he's our
> > resident expert on the usmx treaty.
yes it will be worth waiting for lowell on this if you can
but in the meantime
as mentioned
i believe the thalweg is what you are looking for here
with luck it will be readable as a wiggly line down a dry riverbed
> >
> > I suppose another historical tripoint I could pick up would be the
> > historical tripoint between California, New Mexico Territory, and
> > Mexico before the Gadsden Purchase was made. That would be where
the
> > Gila River flows into the Colorado, on the north side of Yuma,
right?
> > Lowell, do you have any idea whether that tripoint would be in the
> > river midpoint, the thalweg, one of the banks, or what?
right
i believe they probably didnt specify that detail in the original
treaties
& it became a ghost tripoint & therefore a moot question by 1853
but again i think the thalweg junction is your best shot here
as it is traditional in the absence of anything else anyway
> >
> > I also plan to pick up the 33N115W confluence point, but from the
> > description of that on www.confluence.org, it sounds pretty easy
to
> > find with a GPS receiver. If I'm feeling lucky I might try for
> > 32N115W, but that sounds like 5 miles of driving on questionable
> > roads in Mexico, which I'd feel a lot better about if I had (a) 4-
> > wheel drive, (b) somebody fluent in Spanish with me, and/or (c) a
> > lack of memories of bad experiences getting cars stuck in the mud
in
> > the middle of the desert in the US, and that was bad enough. Come
to
> > think of it, one time I was in a caravan of Suburbans on a Geology
> > field trip in Mexico on a road even the locals didn't take any
more,
> > and one of the vehicles got stuck in a rut. Thank God we had a
winch.
> > Car trouble is no fun.
> >
> > Adam
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
& for mxn or if you just wish to live happily ever after
with us here or in general
please remember to focus upon & talk about what is fun rather than
what is not fun
not only because you & we can feel the vibrational level & feeling
tone dive in the moment of no fun & perhaps even take a message or 2
to recover
but also
& especially
because thought creates reality
& if you want more fun
as we probably all do
rather than less
you are entirely responsible for creating it
just as you are entirely responsible for creating no fun if you do
because your thought itself is that powerful
so those are my hints & requests & best wishes for your mxn try at
least